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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby Evan C. » Nov 21st, '09, 08:32

MeathookSodomy wrote:
Heffernan wrote:go through song by song and rate it (kinda like how i did) .....if u cant seriously do this....ill be forced to think you only hate it cuz your following everyone else...and dont have the power to form your own opinions based on what you personally like...but infact base your opinions on what others think

They're bandwagoners. Afraid to like Encore in fear that the "real" Em fans will ridicule them. It's pretty pathetic.


Yes, people are bandwagoners for hating ENCORE.

Seriously, what planet do you live on? The album is horrid, it's Eminem on pillz. During this period he was unable to write, rap, or sing.

He even said that the album wasn't up to his own personal standards. He described everything about him then as "slow" because his mind was so cluttered from the drugs.
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Nov 21st, '09, 08:37

Evan C. wrote:
MeathookSodomy wrote:
Heffernan wrote:go through song by song and rate it (kinda like how i did) .....if u cant seriously do this....ill be forced to think you only hate it cuz your following everyone else...and dont have the power to form your own opinions based on what you personally like...but infact base your opinions on what others think

They're bandwagoners. Afraid to like Encore in fear that the "real" Em fans will ridicule them. It's pretty pathetic.


Yes, people are bandwagoners for hating ENCORE.

Seriously, what planet do you live on? The album is horrid, it's Eminem on pillz. During this period he was unable to write, rap, or sing.

He even said that the album wasn't up to his own personal standards. He described everything about him then as "slow" because his mind was so cluttered from the drugs.

That's why it's important. It documents his drug problems. It's history. Appretiate the courage he had to release Encore while not giving a fuck what anyone thinks. It was who he was at the time. I just love how the album is like a time capsule of Eminem's history as a person.
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby Evan C. » Nov 21st, '09, 08:47

MeathookSodomy wrote:That's why it's important. It documents his drug problems. It's history. Appretiate the courage he had to release Encore while not giving a fuck what anyone thinks. It was who he was at the time. I just love how the album is like a time capsule of Eminem's history as a person.

Well if you choose to like poorly written, scatterbrained, annoying music that's your choice.

That doesn't make the people who don't like it "bandwagoners", though.
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby shadybaby46 » Nov 21st, '09, 08:49

Evan C. wrote:
MeathookSodomy wrote:
Heffernan wrote:go through song by song and rate it (kinda like how i did) .....if u cant seriously do this....ill be forced to think you only hate it cuz your following everyone else...and dont have the power to form your own opinions based on what you personally like...but infact base your opinions on what others think

They're bandwagoners. Afraid to like Encore in fear that the "real" Em fans will ridicule them. It's pretty pathetic.


Yes, people are bandwagoners for hating ENCORE.

Seriously, what planet do you live on? The album is horrid, it's Eminem on pillz. During this period he was unable to write, rap, or sing.

He even said that the album wasn't up to his own personal standards. He described everything about him then as "slow" because his mind was so cluttered from the drugs.



"being up to his own standards" doesnt make it a bad album, hes said numerous times hes a perfectionist so obviously encore isnt up to his standards. lyrically its not his best work, but to say its a " horrid" album is stupid. its music, its all about opinions. its funny when people use what em has said in interviews to back there arguements like he's god or something.
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby Evan C. » Nov 21st, '09, 09:02

shadybaby46 wrote:

"being up to his own standards" doesnt make it a bad album, hes said numerous times hes a perfectionist so obviously encore isnt up to his standards. lyrically its not his best work, but to say its a " horrid" album is stupid. its music, its all about opinions. its funny when people use what em has said in interviews to back there arguements like he's god or something.

Why do you think it is that HE doesn't even like it? it's pretty clear from his comments...if he thought it was any good at all, he wouldn't criticize it. It's because it wasn't even him. It was essentially made by a different person...one without the intelligence or ability to make good rap music.

It's not stupid to call nonsensical, rambling, annoying, corny music 'horrid'. That's exactly what it is.
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Nov 21st, '09, 09:06

Evan C. wrote:
shadybaby46 wrote:

"being up to his own standards" doesnt make it a bad album, hes said numerous times hes a perfectionist so obviously encore isnt up to his standards. lyrically its not his best work, but to say its a " horrid" album is stupid. its music, its all about opinions. its funny when people use what em has said in interviews to back there arguements like he's god or something.

Why do you think it is that HE doesn't even like it? it's pretty clear from his comments...if he thought it was any good at all, he wouldn't criticize it. It's because it wasn't even him. It was essentially made by a different person...one without the intelligence or ability to make good rap music.

It's not stupid to call nonsensical, rambling, annoying, corny music 'horrid'. That's exactly what it is.

Then I guess I like horrid music.
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby Relapse.LP » Nov 21st, '09, 09:06

Think like this: If Eminem said this was his greatest album, then how would your opinions on Encore change? You guys will probably say you still hate it, but is that the truth?

Btw, Encore was a terrible album too for me though, entirely my opinion. :y:
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby macdaddy019967 » Nov 21st, '09, 09:08

in a couple of years it will be illmatic
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby dR3 » Nov 21st, '09, 12:57

I kinda miss Encore, I think I will play it right now
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby Wic Kid » Nov 21st, '09, 13:30

One Mic wrote:Every CD critics gave it a 3, then 3
Years later, they'd go back and re-rate it
And call the Slim Shady LP the greatest
The Marshall Mathers was a classic
The Eminem Show was fantastic
But Encore just didn't have the caliber to match it
I guess enough time just ain't passed, yet
A couple more years, that shit'll be ill-matic

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Do some of you guys take THIS statement as him sayin that Encore sucked?
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby gutawafang » Nov 21st, '09, 13:35

Evan C. wrote:
Fa-Q wrote:make it stop...please...please make it stop

LMAO. JK.

I like Enocre. ;)

But Eminem Show kills this easily no doubt. To me they're both similar but not the same.
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby Wic Kid » Nov 21st, '09, 13:39

I liked it too. Easily his weakest album, but still decent. And Im sure half of these guys think so, but for some idiotic reason they wont admit it. :n:
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby Fa-Q » Nov 21st, '09, 13:44

Slim Shady LP, Marshall Mathers LP, and Eminem Show gangbang Encore....that's how bad it is.....and it gives Relapse a handjob
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby Evan C. » Nov 21st, '09, 15:35

da.relapse.lp wrote:Think like this: If Eminem said this was his greatest album, then how would your opinions on Encore change? You guys will probably say you still hate it, but is that the truth?

Btw, Encore was a terrible album too for me though, entirely my opinion. :y:

Well, I thought Encore sucked back in 2007 and prior...Eminem just confirmed what I and others had thought, that something was seriously wrong with him during that time period (2003-2007).

The whole point in bringing up Eminem's comments was that they explained the circumstances of why the album turned out as awful as it did. For some reason, most people don't "get it". They don't get the connection between the drug use and the effect on the music...no matter how many times it's explained by Eminem or anyone else.
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Re: i know the last thing we need is another enore topic, but...

Postby Raquel » Nov 21st, '09, 15:48

Encore is the worse eminem Cd in my opinion. But I still like it.I mean his others cds are better,but that doesnt mean that Encore is bad. I think is good

IMO:

evil deeds-Good Song,
never enough- Great song
yellow brick road- Good songs
like toy soldiers-Dope
mosh-Dope
puke-Good song
my first single- I hate this song, one of the worst(or the worst) eminems song,imo
rainman-Silly,but good
big weenie-Good song
just lose it- Well is the single, the stupid/funny/catchy song..is not bad
spend some time-Dope
mockingbird-Great song
crazy in love- at first i dont like this song, but now i think is good
one shot 2 shot- I dont like this song, but is not bad
encore-Good song
we as americans-Dope
love you more-Great song
ricky ticky tock-Great song
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