Canibus & DZK (& D12) - Eminem Diss [Air Strike]

[shadybaby46]

Many MCs, disregarding technique, can be regarded as more lyrical than Eminem simply for the reason that their content has a better message.

tbh i gotta say that i think content and the level of lyricism is completely different.

[DƎRDYPK]

OMFG

RoyceDaFive9 @DZK Dog you might wanna find somebody else to play with bcuz I don't play...

[shadybaby46]

also to stay on topic, the way they intertwined the eminem clips saying he'll always reply to a diss is so smart i think, in terms of wanting him to respond, how can he not?

[Evan C.]

One Mic is one of Nas's best songs, arguably his best.

And there you go again talking shit about something you don't know about.

Well, I've obviously heard Eminem's shit...and I've heard One Mic. And I've heard much of Nas's shit.

Does it touch the aforementioned Eminem songs in terms of crafting the lyrics?

Nope.

Lose Yourself? Definitely.

Rock Bottom? Yes.

There's more to crafting Lyrics than just multis, Hence why Canibus is regarded as one of modern rap's greater lyricists. If you mentioned a better song like 8 Mile Road or Rabbit Run, Hell I'd even give Slim more props for Deja Vu than Lose Yourself. You wanna talk about Em's Lyrics? Go look up Infinite and get shat on.

Yeah, cuz I haven't heard infinite.

Lose Yourself is one of Eminem's great works lyrically, but you can't hear that because you haven't listened to it or you don't understand lyricism well enough. The rhyme pattern is difficult to follow...It's literally just rhymes upon rhymes. The whole thing is woven together so that no "series" of rhymes really starts/stops, it just flows along.

[EminemIVLife]

Cannibus has got some great dis tracks like Second Round Knockout and he can spit bars for days but his voice is his biggest prob sometimes you cant listen to 3 songs back to back coz the voice gives u a headache. But imo, Em still has better dis tracks like Go To Sleep, The Sauce, Nail In The Coffin etc

[DƎRDYPK]

dzk @RoyceDaFive9 Don't hurt me Royce, I'm only little.

[macdaddy019967]

dzk @RoyceDaFive9 Don't hurt me Royce, I'm only little.

damn thats crazy

[Satire]

Lose Yourself is one of Eminem's great works lyrically, but you can't hear that because you haven't listened to it or you don't understand lyricism well enough. The rhyme pattern is difficult to follow...It's literally just rhymes upon rhymes. The whole thing is woven together so that no "series" of rhymes really starts/stops, it just flows along.

I don't think you know what Lyricism is. I've heard it, I used to blast it like 24 hours when it first came out, but I've moved on to bigger and better shit now. If you listened to any of his real attempts at lyricism, you'd know that "Lose Yourself" was simplified in terms of lyrics. Why? Because he wanted a lead single, and he needed kids like you to understand it. The result? We got millions of Eminem dickriders who claim that Eminem is great lyrically, but only listen to 3 of his songs because those are the only ones they can understand.

Hell, "8 Mile Road" which came on the exact same CD shat on Lose Yourself lyrically.

[EminemIVLife]

Lets focus more on this fucking exciting topic guys Em's probably writing as we speak; cant go to sleep; has to get shit off his chest

[DƎRDYPK]

Lets focus more on this fucking exciting topic guys Em's probably writing as we speak; cant go to sleep; has to get shit off his chest

word ^

[Evan C.]

Lose Yourself is one of Eminem's great works lyrically, but you can't hear that because you haven't listened to it or you don't understand lyricism well enough. The rhyme pattern is difficult to follow...It's literally just rhymes upon rhymes. The whole thing is woven together so that no "series" of rhymes really starts/stops, it just flows along.

I don't think you know what Lyricism is. I've heard it, I used to blast it like 24 hours when it first came out, but I've moved on to bigger and better shit now. If you listened to any of his real attempts at lyricism, you'd know that "Lose Yourself" was simplified in terms of lyrics. Why? Because he wanted a lead single, and he needed kids like you to understand it. The result? We got millions of Eminem dickriders who claim that Eminem is great lyrically, but only listen to 3 of his songs because those are the only ones they can understand.

Hell, "8 Mile Road" which came on the exact same CD shat on Lose Yourself lyrically.

Well, you're a complete idiot.

Lemme guess...you think Mockingbird, When I'm Gone, and Beautiful are great pieces of lyricism too?

[shadybaby46]

I think you're missing the technical side of things. Nas, while a good lyricist, is not a truly great one. He went in and out of his multis and the shit usually didn't line up syllable-for-syllable.

that's because lining up compound multi-syllabic rhymes syllable-for-syllable is hard & usually detracts from the quality of the lyrics. eminem has never written a song with multis that line up syllable for syllable every time anyway.

you're being way too systematic in your tick-the-boxes interpretation of lyrics. it's like you're running them through a scanner & the only thing it detects is the number of multis, not the fact that it's a good story or that the rap paints a picture or is particularly poetic.

not to mention raps with just multis & no other dimensions can be fucking terrible. it's gotta sound good first & foremost, otherwise you get this fucking trash:

I'm getting mad love I'm snuggling hugs
Druggling thugs smuggling drugs juggling jobs guzzling jugs
So here's a toast to federal checks
Hetero sex unaffordable medical debts huh
We travel in packs and ravel in facts and gravel in cracks
To find babbling Max gaffling tracks
I grapple an axe for them baffling acts
The mysterious stab in the backs who dabble in wax

^ this horse shit from the mostly horse shit album Infinite is the equivalent of Dragonforce in guitar playing, who are praised for their ultra-fast shredding duuude.. until you pull your head out of your ass & realize it fucking sucks.

i never saw the stringent & pedantic use of multis as a criterion for 'great rap', but rather a technical embellishment of a rap & giving it a certain lustre.

this is like the 3rd time this week i've seen you and evan C argue about multis.. lmao

[EminemIVLife]

^ Sorry wasnt in the mindset to read that but damn: how could Em not respond to this dis? This is war right here lol especially given the uncertainty of Em's current status prior to his next release.
Hailie; check
Proof; check
an old enemy who is lyrical as fuck; check

[Satire]

Well, you're a complete idiot.

Lemme guess...you think Mockingbird, When I'm Gone, and Beautiful are great pieces of lyricism too?

No, but I put them on the exact same pedestal as Lose Yourself actually. Dumbed down lyrics, but above the mainstream standard to sell to stupid fucking kids like you.

But, I'm done with you. I logged on to tell you how you were fucking stupid for thinking Biggie sucked. I accomplished that. Outtie.

And to the poster below me: You're a fucking idiot, or you're high or something.

[EminemIVLife]

Lose Yourself is in a different league to those songs though I like Beautiful ^