My Rant. (the so called Death of Hip Hop)

[DƎRDYPK]

when you're in a club, do you REALLY want to hear a Canibus song playing?

best believe

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Your logic is wonderful at times, to be perfectly honest.

To be popular, you must have fans. To have fans, there must be something the fans like about your music (or in the worst case scenario, your looks).

But alas, that does not hold true on the flip-side for underground artists. Underground artists are not unpopular, because they make terrible music. It is because they either are unexposed and without a label, or they choose not to "sell-out" like many artists.

Mainstream artists used to be anyone popular. Now it's just people making songs to get on the radio.

But I agree... hip hop is not dead.

Hov on some new shit/
Niqqas like how come?/
Niqqas want my old shit/
Buy my old album/

One of the most conscious lyrics I've heard from Jay-Z in a while.

[Spyder]

your right, but i think soulja boy,wayne,drake should STAY in the clubs
honestly no i dont wanna hear Em in a club or dance or what have u
but i dont wont those 3 anywhere else, like on my radio and having people say THATS what rap is
because when you look underground or out of the clubs, THEN thats when u get rap
i consider Soulja boy to be in a new catory called Club, because he's not rap
namean?

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your right, but i think soulja boy,wayne,drake should STAY in the clubs
honestly no i dont wanna hear Em in a club or dance or what have u
but i dont wont those 3 anywhere else, like on my radio and having people say THATS what rap is
because when you look underground or out of the clubs, THEN thats when u get rap
i consider Soulja boy to be in a new catory called Club, because he's not rap
namean?

Eminem has lots of club/dance singles.

[Spyder]

@Scott, true true... but unfortunitly hip hop as we knew it is changin for the worse
there are very few that can keep a mainstream/underground mix alive. when those are gone

@LP - not any good one

[D'Leh]

@Scott, true true... but unfortunitly hip hop as we knew it is changin for the worse
there are very few that can keep a mainstream/underground mix alive. when those are gone

@LP - not any good one

WORD UP!

[Wic Kid]

This isnt just about hip hop. The entire music industry is changin. Now its all about money. And Im not sayin that in the past it wasnt, but I just think people respected music much more back then. Nowadays so much came-outta-nowhere artists are popular, millions of 'em. I dont think that these last few years those people gained more talent than people 20 years back in the past. These days there are just too much popular artists. So its expected that the music industry will drasticly change. In a bad way IMO...

And that shit is affectin hip hop too. Also in a bad way IMO.

[Robbie G]

I feel like there's definitely a place for mainstream clubby songs and underground. So I'm not gonna hate on radio songs if there catchy and have some sort of flow to them. That being said it seems like lately the only thing getting any recognition is the mainstream/autotune songs which just gets boring.

But I agree with you, artists will make the kind of music that sells. So if people buy into shitty music they will make shitty music.

[Wic Kid]

=D>

sarcasm? lol

No, I actually agree with you. The game changes like its supposed to every couple of years. It's called evolving and these underground idiots are so stuck on what Nas did in 1996 THEY KILL HIP HOP. Of course some people suck but thats how it's ALWAYS been. They really need to get over it and let the music grow because if it doen't and it stays the same it will really die.

I like a rapper using skill in his songs but you just can't please these underground fans if you don't sound like Nas or Mos Def. If they had it how they wanted Hip Hop would die for real because everyone would sound like Nas or Immortal Technique Nobody wants to hear that shit

But dont you think its changin too drasticly? What will happen in 10 years, when songs like Lollipop start lookin more hip hop than everything else thats called RAP in that time?
We all know that eventually, this is goin to happen. Judgin by current situation in rap game, thats inevitable.

[Arrinef]

props

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Hip hop requires evolution.

Staying statically stagnant surprises shit so suckers (for hip hop) sadden.

What I meant to say is artists who try to stay "old school" will ultimately sound outdated.

[DƎRDYPK]

You think hip hop's dead because Nas said it bitch?

Although I do find it funny that the lil hip popper Soulja Boy said Nas killed hip hop

[Wic Kid]

But dont you think its changin too drasticly? What will happen in 10 years, when songs like Lollipop start lookin more hip hop than everything else thats called RAP in that time?
We all know that eventually, this is goin to happen. Judgin by current situation in rap game, thats inevitable.

No, it has to change. For a while it was going in the wrong direction but I think it's getting better. We have a lot of talented rappers coming in the game and still rappers that'll come that haven't made it yet. Drake is only gonna get better, so are Kid Cudi, Charles Hamilton, Asher Roth.

I dont find these rappers talented at all.

I agree Lollipop wasn't the most "Hip-Hop" song ever. But believe it or not when Em first came in the game hip hop head didn't like him either. It just takes time. Everytime the game starts to change you have people saying they want it to go back to the old way. But like I said before the old way kills evolution. We need to evolve as rappers and evolve as a genre.

Well, you got a point here.

Now that the south is kind of dying out I think we'll get better and take the game in a better direction.

I really hope it does. But if it changes the course...

Look, Im a not a stuck up fan of the old school. I like it, but sometimes I prefer new school (new as in till 2004). By then, game was doin pretty fine. And then a plague was brought upon it...

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^ I'm just curious, Wic Kid, were you listening to hip hop in 2004? ^

[Wic Kid]

Yeah, but then I was more into Eminem than into rest of rap. But every now and then I bump 2004 shit from time to time. Why?