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Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby Solace » Dec 24th, '09, 02:12

Like, hell I liked the diss enough. It was funny, especially the 3rd verse. But it didnt really ruin Canibus' career. The beef wasn't even well known. Canibus somewhat had it more public when he put up some shots on his album C True Hollywood Stories. But even then the beef wasn't that big. The diss was more of a joke so it didnt really have the sense of "destroying" Canibus' character, as you could say with "The Sauce/Source" did to Benzino.
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby BILI » Dec 24th, '09, 02:12

EminemBase wrote:^ It didn't slaughter him in the sense of totally destroying his character as Em was fucking around on it and told a jokey story as apposed to getting nasty. So it can't have that effect.

But it totally overshadowed and slaughtered any of Bis' disses towards Em and easily won the beef. Yes.

Can-I-Bitch was whack as hell.


Can-I-Bitch wasn't wack. Class flow, class homage to a classic Slick Rick track, class storytelling and dissing all at once.

People just don't like it because he's not growling and screaming what a bitch Canibus is. He wasn't that angry at him so that's why he just fucked around.

But it's still a class diss, it's almost like saying you're not worth a proper fight, it's like bullying a 10 year old, here - A little story to murder you.

Man,you dont know hip-hop if you think that "Can-I Bitch" is better then any diss Canibus aimed againt Em
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby EminemBase » Dec 24th, '09, 02:12

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EminemBase wrote:^ It didn't slaughter him in the sense of totally destroying his character as Em was fucking around on it and told a jokey story as apposed to getting nasty. So it can't have that effect.

But it totally overshadowed and slaughtered any of Bis' disses towards Em and easily won the beef. Yes.

Exactly why I thought it was a weak-ass track. Because Eminem didn't take it seriously. :n:


Yeah but that's because the beef wasn't serious.

By taking it seriously Em would of looked like he was taking Canibus seriously. He made Canibus look silly by saying "you're a joke, this beef is a joke, you're not a worthy opponent".

That's how I see it anyway. We can all see it however we want to but I think it's a good creative diss and I'd rather of heard that than cheesy macho gangsta talk at a man he'll probably never meet again.

I can't be fucked with a big debate over this song anyway, agree to disagree, I'm out of this one.

Man,you dont know hip-hop if you think that "Can-I Bitch" is better then any diss Canibus aimed againt Em


Don't tell me I don't know hip-hop just because I disagree with you, arrogant fucker. I actually do know hip-hop, very well.

Just because Em wasn't putting on a lame over the top tough guy act and calling Canibus a fucking bitch every other line doesn't mean it's not a good diss.

All of Canibus' disses were void of character or anything which qualifies a good character attack even in real life. Or in any literature. He's a lame MC, period.
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby Relapse.LP » Dec 24th, '09, 02:14

To be honest, none of us have seen Eminem participating in a half-decent feud with a half-decent rapper, so we really don't know how refined are Eminem's battle skills.
Yo, from the first to the last of it; delivery is passionate/
The whole and not the half of it; vocab and not the math of it/
Projectile that them blasted with; accurate assassin shit/
Me and Kweli close like... Bethlehem and Nazareth/


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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby BILI » Dec 24th, '09, 02:39

EminemBase wrote:
Relapse.LP wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ It didn't slaughter him in the sense of totally destroying his character as Em was fucking around on it and told a jokey story as apposed to getting nasty. So it can't have that effect.

But it totally overshadowed and slaughtered any of Bis' disses towards Em and easily won the beef. Yes.

Exactly why I thought it was a weak-ass track. Because Eminem didn't take it seriously. :n:


Yeah but that's because the beef wasn't serious.

By taking it seriously Em would of looked like he was taking Canibus seriously. He made Canibus look silly by saying "you're a joke, this beef is a joke, you're not a worthy opponent".

That's how I see it anyway. We can all see it however we want to but I think it's a good creative diss and I'd rather of heard that than cheesy macho gangsta talk at a man he'll probably never meet again.

I can't be fucked with a big debate over this song anyway, agree to disagree, I'm out of this one.

Man,you dont know hip-hop if you think that "Can-I Bitch" is better then any diss Canibus aimed againt Em


Don't tell me I don't know hip-hop just because I disagree with you, arrogant fucker. I actually do know hip-hop, very well.

Just because Em wasn't putting on a lame over the top tough guy act and calling Canibus a fucking bitch every other line doesn't mean it's not a good diss.

All of Canibus' disses were void of character or anything which qualifies a good character attack even in real life. Or in any literature. He's a lame MC, period.

Man learn your shit,and then come back to a rap forum,stop being a Stan,and became a rap fan,you`re all over Em`s dick,its pretty obvious,and dont act like you aint,I`m 100% sure Ems your all time fav rapper,and the only reason that it is like that its because you never heard real rap,you arrogant fucker :flower:
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby Relapse.LP » Dec 24th, '09, 02:40

My apprentices have learned well. :8)
Yo, from the first to the last of it; delivery is passionate/
The whole and not the half of it; vocab and not the math of it/
Projectile that them blasted with; accurate assassin shit/
Me and Kweli close like... Bethlehem and Nazareth/


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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby Solace » Dec 24th, '09, 02:41

Relapse.LP wrote:To be honest, none of us have seen Eminem participating in a half-decent feud with a half-decent rapper, so we really don't know how refined are Eminem's battle skills.

Word man...Mariah Carey...Nick Cannon...Benzino.

Damn Eminem, you have outdone yourself.
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby BILI » Dec 24th, '09, 02:41

Relapse.LP wrote:My apprentices have learned well. :8)

Yo man,I`m writing that for our collab right now,its just that I totally forgot about it :y:
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby EminemBase » Dec 24th, '09, 02:43

Relapse.LP wrote:To be honest, none of us have seen Eminem participating in a half-decent feud with a half-decent rapper, so we really don't know how refined are Eminem's battle skills.


Well I agree that we haven't seen him against a decent rapper at all yet but that's not his fault. That's just because most other great lyricists actually have careers so have no reason to try eat off his name and / or they're not racist fucks just trying to take Em down because he's white and they're jealous and dumb.

He's friends with and respected by nearly all the kingpins; Redman, Nas, Xzibit, Jay-Z etc.

But regardless, he's still made some of the best disses ever, no matter who they're at or how lame that rapper is. "Nail in the Coffin" - "Quitter" - "I Remember" - "The Sauce" - "Bully".

I mean "Bully" especially. Close to a diss masterpiece. The writing is beautiful.

Man learn your shit,and then come back to a rap forum,stop being a Stan,and became a rap fan,you`re all over Em`s dick,its pretty obvious,and dont act like you aint,I`m 100% sure Ems your all time fav rapper,and the only reason that it is like that its because you never heard real rap,you arrogant fucker


You're a complete fucking moron.

No actually cunt face I am a RAP FAN. A fan of fucking RAP, ALL RAP, ALL GOOD RAP.

I listen to Nas and Redman as much as I do Eminem. My hip-hop interest pre-dates me getting into Eminem and I know A LOT of and about hip-hop and the reasons as to why it's good to me.

Stop confusing stan with fan for one. You can know Eminem's entire back catalog off by heart, that doesn't = STAN. You're a stan if he influences your life. If you dress, walk and talk like him. If you change your natural state to act like him. You're not a fucking stan for loving his music.

Yes Em is my #1 but that's not because I don't know other shit. What a lame fucking cop-out. Go swap your lowly, rotted apple-head brain for an intelligent one then come back to debate me. I already gave some other prick a wasting in another thread as to why I consider Em the best and it has nothing to do with his blonde hair or me not listening to anything else.

You arrogant, floundering, worthless, putrid cocksucker.
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby Le Tunisien » Dec 24th, '09, 02:57

Solace wrote:
Relapse.LP wrote:To be honest, none of us have seen Eminem participating in a half-decent feud with a half-decent rapper, so we really don't know how refined are Eminem's battle skills.

Word man...Mariah Carey...Nick Cannon...Benzino.

Damn Eminem, you have outdone yourself.

why does people always forget ja rule? lol
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby Anim » Dec 24th, '09, 02:58

le tunisien wrote:
Solace wrote:
Relapse.LP wrote:To be honest, none of us have seen Eminem participating in a half-decent feud with a half-decent rapper, so we really don't know how refined are Eminem's battle skills.

Word man...Mariah Carey...Nick Cannon...Benzino.

Damn Eminem, you have outdone yourself.

why does people always forget ja rule? lol


Cause he was baaaaaaaaad :)
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby EminemBase » Dec 24th, '09, 02:59

Yeah but people always emphasize the losers he's battled (excluding Nick Cannon and Mariah Carey as neither are rappers and yes I know Nick once tried to be) - Ja Rule, Everlast, Benzino

As if he picked them lmao. They all started with him. Play with fire you'll get ya fingers burned.
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby BILI » Dec 24th, '09, 03:00

Oh,you`re listenin to Redman and Nas 2 :o :o ,thats awesome!!But its probably cause you heard that Em listens to them 2,you heard it from his songs that he likes those guys,so you wanted to be a full-time Stan and go listen to them just like your fav rapper does.

See man you live in delusion,you`re sittin alone everyday,every night,thinkin about Ems cock,aren`t you?

As far as intelligence,I`m 99% positive that I`m far more intelligent then you,you think that you`re smart cause you read Dawkins,well I read him 2,and I dont think that that makes me any more intelligent then some other people,but its just that I was born wit high IQ,unlike you :flower:
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby Relapse.LP » Dec 24th, '09, 03:19

BILI wrote:
Relapse.LP wrote:My apprentices have learned well. :8)

Yo man,I`m writing that for our collab right now,its just that I totally forgot about it :y:

Finish it up ASAP. :y: :y:
Yo, from the first to the last of it; delivery is passionate/
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Projectile that them blasted with; accurate assassin shit/
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Re: Oktaine - Till That White Boy Is Finished [Em Diss]

Postby EminemBase » Dec 24th, '09, 03:21

BILI wrote:Oh,you`re listenin to Redman and Nas 2 :o :o ,thats awesome!!But its probably cause you heard that Em listens to them 2,you heard it from his songs that he likes those guys,so you wanted to be a full-time Stan and go listen to them just like your fav rapper does.

See man you live in delusion,you`re sittin alone everyday,every night,thinkin about Ems cock,aren`t you?

As far as intelligence,I`m 99% positive that I`m far more intelligent then you,you think that you`re smart cause you read Dawkins,well I read him 2,and I dont think that that makes me any more intelligent then some other people,but its just that I was born wit high IQ,unlike you :flower:


No actually, I listened to Nas before I heard Eminem. Moron :)

I love all hip-hop, you can't seem to get that through your futile excuse for a brain. I listen to everyone from A Tribe Called Quest to Mos Def to Xzibit, a whole load of shit.

As far as intelligence, I can immediately tell from your posts that you're not even close to my level of intelligence. I actually feel a bit of a bully, it's like punching a five year old.

At no point have I claimed highbrow rights just because I read Dawkins. It's less to do with Dawkins, more a love for Science, rationality and all things real. Which you wouldn't understand, you believe in god. As for your IQ statement, well you've just proven to me beyond a doubt that you're a senseless drone if you seriously think IQ has any relation to real intelligence. I actually have an above average IQ but I wouldn't be so lame as to try and use to to display my intelligence.

There are far better ways at doing so. The IQ test is an age-old piece of shit that was originally created to try and find retarded children amongst groups. It's since been refined slightly and staked a claim as an 'intelligence test' but it's nothing of the sorts. It's a clunky set of bias questions challenging very specific parts of the brain which don't equate to true intelligence. There are many different levels.

Any truly intelligent person would be aware of this so you clearly aren't in that category. Also, if you really do read Dawkins - go read some more as he's a beautiful debater, you should take notes since your debate skills are non-existent. Pay attention this time though and stop drooling on the pages. That's eminent literature you're tarnishing with your filthy retard spit.
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