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Postby shadybaby46 » Dec 29th, '09, 12:05

for me it always seems like eminem saves his best sht for when he's on a song with someone, maybe it's just me but he always comes soooo hard when he's on a song with someone. what do you guys think?
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Re: features or alone?

Postby TiBon » Dec 29th, '09, 12:19

PINK wrote:I enjoy listening to his colabs and his own songs.
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Re: features or alone?

Postby M-Pyre » Dec 29th, '09, 13:23

make this a poll.


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Re: features or alone?

Postby Wic Kid » Dec 29th, '09, 13:28

Not more than 3 feats. I wanna hear Eminem album, not some bullshit like that Busta's Back On My BS. 12 outta 14 songs feats... What tha fuck? :n:
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Re: features or alone?

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Dec 29th, '09, 13:31

PINK wrote:Well I think he has some amazing colabs. Colabs seem like a way of showing 'don't mess with me' kind of thing. For example in 'Forever' he murdered his verse. However he has awesome songs himself, when he needs to show he is the man he does. No one doubts him then.

I enjoy listening to his colabs and his own songs.

I think Em brings it more on other artists' collaborations, rather than on his own.
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Re: features or alone?

Postby Almostlity » Dec 29th, '09, 13:35

Features with DOPE artists >>>>>
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Re: features or alone?

Postby AJS2050 » Dec 29th, '09, 13:40

3 features maximum.
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Re: features or alone?

Postby Elision » Dec 29th, '09, 13:45

shadybaby46 wrote:maybe it's just me but he always comes soooo hard when he's on a song with someone.


it's because when eminem is one a track with any other artist, he's putting one big unavoidable abstractly colored blot on a solid canvas.

An odd analogy, i know, but that's the only way I can put it. He puts other artists to shame on tracks, and it's not because he's saving his best shit, he just is the best shit period. To tell another artist to keep their head above water with Em on a track, is like telling a 3 year old to draw Mona Lisa.

The reason it doesn't seem the same on his own songs is because it's him all the way through, and you subconsciously adapt to the track from the first word that comes out of his mouth.
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Re: features or alone?

Postby Mikey1990 » Dec 29th, '09, 14:04

I would like to see
T.I n wayne on it
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Re: features or alone?

Postby Alaine » Dec 29th, '09, 14:15

When he spits alone, I like his subject matter more, it's more him. When he collab with artists not in his style, he tends to try to "fit in" to go along with the song.
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Re: features or alone?

Postby Elision » Dec 29th, '09, 14:22

Alaine wrote:he tends to try to "fit in" to go along with the song.


I disagree to an extent. Sure, maybe on songs like "touchdown" he has to, because it's a very specific subject.


But I think Em really tries to do his own thing as much as possible on songs. As opposed to just following the dotted line.
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Re: features or alone?

Postby Alaine » Dec 29th, '09, 14:32

Nollie wrote:
Alaine wrote:he tends to try to "fit in" to go along with the song.


I disagree to an extent. Sure, maybe on songs like "touchdown" he has to, because it's a very specific subject.


But I think Em really tries to do his own thing as much as possible on songs. As opposed to just following the dotted line.

I actually think so, kinda hard to point out since it's not obvious but if you listen to too much Em like I do, you'll "feel" it :unsure:
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Re: features or alone?

Postby Emadyville » Dec 29th, '09, 17:13

shadybaby46 wrote:for me it always seems like eminem saves his best sht for when he's on a song with someone, maybe it's just me but he always comes soooo hard when he's on a song with someone. what do you guys think?


its that way because when he features its only usually a verse, so if he kills a verse, as a whole you think he killed it. but in a song, it's very hard to ever kill 3 verses, and even if you do no one will ever say all 3 verses were equally that great, which will cause you to think of one verse as the weakest, even tho all three might be amazing. get what I mean?

for example on renegade, his first verse he murdered, voted top 20 verses in rap history right. well even if the 2nd verse he spit was the second best verse ever behind his first verse, it's still second, and therefore inferior. it's psychological :smoking:

he's better on his own songs :shifty:
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Re: features or alone?

Postby EminemBase » Dec 29th, '09, 17:31

Ideally, I would be tempted to say none but thinking about it, this probably wouldn't sound best.

I think the right amount of collabs. A few, carefully crafted and chosen ones (not filler) can illuminate and add to an album rather than detract to it.

If he just had...

Xzibit, Tech N9 and Royce on R2. I think it would be perfect.

Obviously this won't be the case though. We already know at least one track is ruined thanks to 50 fucking cent. Lamest rapper in history. I really hope Ca$his aka 2Pac with a stroke isn't on it too!

I also would rather not hear Dre on it. Dre sounds great on the mic obviously and they have good chemistry but it's always just a filler track now.

If they created a concept like "Guilty Conscience" fair enough.

But I don't wanna hear another 'wild party track' about smoking weed, fucking bitches and fighting. With Em coming in to tear shit up with valium and E's and Dre the straight-man bragging about how long he's been in the game and why the D.R.E still matters.
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Re: features or alone?

Postby Bruce » Dec 29th, '09, 18:56

if only em could take the way he flows in his collabs into his own shit nowadays. e.g. DTW & Forever.

I would like to see T.I. and Wayne on the album and possibly something a little bit off the cuff newish to show he can mix it up abit like a collab with JT or Gaga would be class i think.

But max 3 collabs definetely.

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