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Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby mcZu » Jan 5th, '10, 23:16

Subliminal stimuli in the form of backmasking has been found in the speeches of the president of the United States of America.



Now, what do you think is the purpose of this message, assuming it's true and not a hoax, without trying to resort to conspiracy theories such as the Illuminati.
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby DƎRDYPK » Jan 5th, '10, 23:20

freakiest backmask i'v ever heard :zipped:
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby °[~CHR!$~]° » Jan 5th, '10, 23:30

DerdyPK wrote:freakiest backmask i'v ever heard :zipped:

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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby EminemBase » Jan 5th, '10, 23:32

Nothing is meant by it.

You think he / they constructed a phrase so they could say 'thank you satan' backwards, for what purpose would they want people to have a chance at spotting them lmfao.

It's very likely Obama himself is an atheist, in his autobiography even stating that if you want to become the President of the United States you "better have a Church to go to".

Like many US politicians he is being forced to hide this because no atheist would get elected. Or he believes they wouldn't, so they're forced to lie. Shameful.

A short simplistic, inspirational phrase which sounds vaguely like "thank you Satan" on speed means nothing. You can find 'messages', very vague, half-assed 'messages' which make no real sense in anything if you look hard enough. This is nothing. Just coincidence.
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby Steve Spag » Jan 5th, '10, 23:38

Obama's the Antichrist :o
Haha, no, but that seriously was a little freaky!
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby KrazyKane » Jan 5th, '10, 23:44

Damn that shit is fucked up.
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby mcZu » Jan 5th, '10, 23:45

EminemBase wrote:Nothing is meant by it.

You think he / they constructed a phrase so they could say 'thank you satan' backwards, for what purpose would they want people to have a chance at spotting them lmfao.

A short simplistic, inspirational phrase which sounds vaguely like "thank you Satan" on speed means nothing. You can find 'messages', very vague, half-assed 'messages' which make no real sense in anything if you look hard enough. This is nothing. Just coincidence.

It has been done numerous times in history. Messages like these may even have a brainwash effect, because it's a sensory stimulation, it hits right below an individual's absolute threshold area and by doing so it messes with your conscious perception.

Everything is done with a reason, calling it a coincidence is an easy way out, because that's usually peoples response when they can't fathom certain things.
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby Steve Spag » Jan 5th, '10, 23:46

mcZu wrote:Everything is done with a reason
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby DaKidLilj » Jan 5th, '10, 23:46

That shit was stupid man. People always read too much into things like this and it pisses me off.
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby EminemBase » Jan 5th, '10, 23:52

mcZu wrote:It has been done numerous times in history. Messages like these may even have a brainwash effect, because it's a sensory stimulation, it hits right below an individual's absolute threshold area and by doing so it messes with your conscious perception.

Everything is done with a reason, calling it a coincidence is an easy way out, because that's usually peoples response when they can't fathom certain things.


Firstly, could you name just a few times it's been 'done' and conclusively proven so I can check them. Because that's new to me. Back-masked messages I mean.

Secondly, I know a lot about psychology as I've been doing card magic and general magic about 7 years and naturally learn a lot about human psychology from it and back-masked messages are near-useless to the brain.

Your brain won't subconsciously reverse it and it have an effect on you. Yes you get influenced on many levels and a lot subconsciously but whenever subliminal messaging of any sorts has been attempted to prove its worth, it's always failed. Hugely. It's always been myth, never proven at all.

Lastly, no calling it coincidence isn't an 'easy way out' and it's not because I can't fathom it because trying to fathom a vaguely half-assed slightly similar sounding audo-bite of 'thanks to satan' is not hard to fathom at all. It's just very silly.

Many things happen from coincidence which people lamely put meaning to because humans naturally need explanations for things. Such as you thinking of a friend randomly and the phone ringing, and it's them. Now many people think that's unbelieveable and "omg must be something to that". When what you don't realize is how many times you've thought of that friend and they haven't rung. And nothing's happened.

Things like this are bound to happen given the amount of activity and there's bound to be a story behind them. Just like if you picture lottery numbers in a dream, go buy a tick and you win. Now... To you, that seems mind-blowing. But when you think about it logically, think of the millions of people who also picture lottery numbers and lose. Somebody has to win and there's bound to be a story. It feels individual to you but mathematically, it's inevitable.

The easy way out is what you're doing. Attaching lame unfounded theories to these things, then speculating non-stop about very silly things. The harder way is to look into why these things happen. Look into the mathematics and the science of the World. That's the harder thing to fathom.
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby Emadyville » Jan 6th, '10, 00:11

they should play the whole speech back-mastered, guarantee the rest of it sounds like nothing :o
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby EminemBase » Jan 6th, '10, 00:12

Emadyville wrote:they should play the whole speech back-mastered, guarantee the rest of it sounds like nothing :o


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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby mcZu » Jan 6th, '10, 00:17

EminemBase wrote:
mcZu wrote:It has been done numerous times in history. Messages like these may even have a brainwash effect, because it's a sensory stimulation, it hits right below an individual's absolute threshold area and by doing so it messes with your conscious perception.

Everything is done with a reason, calling it a coincidence is an easy way out, because that's usually peoples response when they can't fathom certain things.


Firstly, could you name just a few times it's been 'done' and conclusively proven so I can check them. Because that's new to me. Back-masked messages I mean.

Secondly, I know a lot about psychology as I've been doing card magic and general magic about 7 years and naturally learn a lot about human psychology from it and back-masked messages are near-useless to the brain.

Magic has nothing to do with backmasking, I've done card magic myself and general magic, but by knowing how to conduct illusions does not tell you if backmasking has an effect on the brain or not (I'll post up some links after I'm done writing a report, don't really have the time right now to look it up).

Your brain won't subconsciously reverse it and it have an effect on you. Yes you get influenced on many levels and a lot subconsciously but whenever subliminal messaging of any sorts has been attempted to prove its worth, it's always failed. Hugely. It's always been myth, never proven at all.

Stereotypes, subliminally branding certain aspects of groups as being linked to certain bad things influence peoples judgement, just a simple example.

And by repeating a backmasked message the brain starts to perceive it from different angles. One of those angles might be subconsciously reversing that message.
Lastly, no calling it coincidence isn't an 'easy way out' and it's not because I can't fathom it because trying to fathom a vaguely half-assed slightly similar sounding audo-bite of 'thanks to satan' is not hard to fathom at all. It's just very silly.

Many things happen from coincidence which people lamely put meaning to because humans naturally need explanations for things. Such as you thinking of a friend randomly and the phone ringing, and it's them. Now many people think that's unbelieveable and "omg must be something to that". When what you don't realize is how many times you've thought of that friend and they haven't rung. And nothing's happened.

Things like this are bound to happen given the amount of activity and there's bound to be a story behind them. Just like if you picture lottery numbers in a dream, go buy a tick and you win. Now... To you, that seems mind-blowing. But when you think about it logically, think of the millions of people who also picture lottery numbers and lose. Somebody has to win and there's bound to be a story. It feels individual to you but mathematically, it's inevitable.

You call that coincidence, I call it accumulated referential thinking. And don't mix up luck and coincidence, because they are two separate things.

The easy way out is what you're doing. Attaching lame unfounded theories to these things, then speculating non-stop about very silly things. The harder way is to look into why these things happen. Look into the mathematics and the science of the World. That's the harder thing to fathom.

It isn't lame and unfounded, it's called creativity and imagination, something even scientists value. The difference between a computer and a human being is that we have the ability to be creative, wether it is true or not, it gives us the opportunitie to discuss it from different views. You may find it silly and lame, but you can't deny the fact that there is no clear answer to this, and labeling it as a coincidence isn't going to help us either.
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby EminemBase » Jan 6th, '10, 00:30

^ No adding unfounded, extremely unlikely theories to things for no apparent reason which make no sense isn't creative or imaginative, we can all do it. It's just boring and silly.

Turning original ideas into art is creative. Making up stories in relation to real-life that you have no evidence for but in your head slightly wish were true isn't creative. It is your imagination however, I grant you that.
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Re: Subliminal Messages: Obama

Postby Spyder » Jan 6th, '10, 00:52

yeah that was freaky, but some of the sentances in there were a little bit of a reach. the subtitles trick your mind into thinking that it actually sounds like that. close your eyes and you wont be able to understand most of it.
HOWEVER

whether the speech and the Obama "yes we can" line was done on purpose. which could be possible


Obama, in the bible perfectly fits the antichrist. now im not some religion freak, nor do i actually beilive. but i do think Obama has bad intentions.
he said he went to all 57 states correct? U.S. has 50, Islam or some place middle eastern has 57... his mother is muslim but was born he was born in US making him eligble to run for president. the muslims themselves said. "we'll finally have one of our own as president"... no racism but thats scary their happy about one of our presindents.

in the bible it says the last war will be in Islam... where Obama accidentaly talked about... where his mother is from... the world is heavly belived to end in 2012... the last year of Obama's term...

now im not saying i belive all this, im not racist twards mulsim or iralea's. nor am i saying that Obama is deffetly gonna kill us.

but makes you wonder doesnt it
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