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Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby Emadyville » Jan 7th, '10, 21:40

Is Eminem the John McCain of rap?

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The other day, a guy sent me a link to this poll over at Vibe where it was determined that Eminem is the greatest MC of all time or some such, and he was like. “Dude, you gotta say something about this?”

My guess is that he wanted me to discuss the racial implications of the fact that Eminem, a guy who hasn’t put out an album in over four years now, and hasn’t put out an album that’s worth a shit in even longer, can still be considered relevant, when a black rapper who didn’t put out an album for that long probably would have been arrested for trying to hold up a bank, or working the flour table at a Church’s Chicken or some shit.

Clearly, it’s because he’s white, right? Never mind the fact that he is a pretty good rapper, and he once put out one of my favorite albums evar. Nas once put out one of my favorite albums evar, and you don’t see him winning any greatest rapper polls, now do you?

The thing is, it’s hard to be too upset with a guy like Eminem winning this poll. I mean, I don’t doubt that his race plays into his popularity. But it just so happens that he is really good. And it could have been way worse. Soulja Boy, for example, is really popular on the Internets. What if he won this thing?

I’ll take hip-hop being taken over by white people over hip-hop being taken over by illiterate black kids every day of the week and twice on Tuesday.

However, you do have to wonder if the results of this poll weren’t influenced by the current climate in this country with regard to race relations. For example, is it only a mere matter of coincidence that Eminem is being crowned the greatest rapper of all time in the same issue of Vibe where they’re endorsing a presidential candidate for the first time evar, and it just so happens to be a black guy? (I’m sure it was his health care plan that got him the nod.)

Or could it be that this is evidence of some sort of Obamania-fueled backlash against the black communty? The same backlash we’ve seen manifested, in the past couple of weeks, in cracka-ass crackas going on TV talking about how OJ Simpson finally got what he had coming to him, as if anyone still gives a shit about the OJ trial 13 years after the fact; and mofos shouting out, “He’s a terrorist!” and “Kill him!” and what have you at Klan McCain-Palin rallies.

Would Eminem have won the same poll if it was held, say, a year ago, when most people still figured this election was gonna be another showdown between Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton? (God forbid.) I guess it’s hard to say without there having been such a poll. But I will say that I’m not aware of any other such polls that Eminem has won. Just this one that’s being announced in the Barack Obama issue of Vibe.

More importantly, you have to wonder what this poll suggest about a potential Bradley effect amongst white voter in this year’s presidential election - the political phenomenon that has to do with white people fronting about whether they’d support a black candidate. If white people have somehow managed to elect Eminem as America’s favorite rapper, in 2008, what’s there to suggest that they’re not gonna select John McCain as their next president?

McCain’s supposedly way down in the polls. But it’s not like Eminem’s got any songs on the charts right now, and he just managed to beat a whole bunch of black people in an election. And keep in mind, the contest Eminem won took place in the pages of Vibe magazine. I wasn’t even aware that anyone read Vibe magazine other than 47 year-old black chicks. Could it be that white people these days are just that much more adamant about actually winning something?

What do you fruits think? Did Eminem winning this Vibe poll have anything to do with this year’s presidential election? Or do I need to cut off the CNN for a bit and go back to looking at Internets pr0n? Speak on it.


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This article seems a little old, but I never remember seeing it :unsure:
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby Spyder » Jan 7th, '10, 21:47

that guy is gonna get shot :shakehead:
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby AliJack » Jan 7th, '10, 22:19

evar + internets = void.
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby dR3 » Jan 7th, '10, 23:42

:o
John McCain? Really?
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby slimsoxshady » Jan 7th, '10, 23:51

AliJack wrote:evar + internets = void.

and it wasn't even one "evar"...there were two lol
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby Shady'baby. » Jan 7th, '10, 23:52

oh my fucking god, this article is full of shit lol
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby AliJack » Jan 7th, '10, 23:53

slimsoxshady wrote:
AliJack wrote:evar + internets = void.

and it wasn't even one "evar"...there were two lol
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby pHiLLip fARkLe » Jan 8th, '10, 00:01

forevar evar, evar evar, evar evar. and evar. an epic fail. :laughing:
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby embm » Jan 8th, '10, 00:57

wtf :unsure:
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 8th, '10, 02:57

I lost interest in reading the article as soon as I saw it was trying to push the idea Em was getting that attention / props because he's white.

How long are fucking morons going to try and push this lame, dead as dead argument? It's pathetic.

If you seriously think that's the reason Em is respected or big, you're a fucking idiot. Racist bigot.

Of course being white helped propell his fame and the novelty of it worked for him. But if he wasn't AS good as we think he is, he wouldn't of had continued success and when the novelty wore off (like it did with Vanilla Ice) then his past work would now seem laughable.

Can anybody really say The Marshall Mathers LP is laughable? Give me a fucking break. "White America" sounds as fucking genius regardless of his skin colour. He's the best for his lyricism, charisma, flow, irony, persona-juggling, concepts and originality. Not for his skin colour.

And what the fuck has not putting an album out for years got to do with it. Somebody can be the best of all time if they haven't put out an album for 50 years. If they're the best, they're the best. Being relevant is not the same as being the best.

And just to finish off, he's not the John McCain of rap... I mean wtf is that for one? A lazy racist comparison, oh how clever. It's like saying 2Pac is the Al Sharpton of rap.

Eminem is the Quentin Tarrantino of rap. He injects violence with irony and turns twisted thinking into an art. He also compounds very large ideas into very small batches of material and most of all, does it all in a way that is not quite like anything else you've ever been exposed to.
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby Emadyville » Jan 8th, '10, 07:37

Was it just me, or did the article not say he that it didn't matter because he was good :shifty:
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby theJFKshow » Jan 8th, '10, 07:44

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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby AliJack » Jan 8th, '10, 13:07

I gotta say tho it is true he gets a slight push since he's white and not black, you can't deny that, that would be stupid.
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby Wic Kid » Jan 8th, '10, 16:03

Amadeo wrote:more like the John McClane of rap because he has so many diehard fans.

John McClane fuckin rocks. The baddest badass there ever was. After Jason Bourne, of course.
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Re: Em the John McCain of Rap?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 8th, '10, 16:57

AliJack wrote:I gotta say tho it is true he gets a slight push since he's white and not black, you can't deny that, that would be stupid.


No, to begin with it helped. But it's not relevant to say that now, the novelty has worn right off.

It'd be like saying Tiger Woods gets more attention because he's black. Not true. It's because he's the best.

Otherwise we'd be hearing much more fuss being made out of Asher Roth, Paul Wall and other white rappers too.
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