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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Fa-Q » Jan 9th, '10, 01:04

Btw how could you possibly hate the pencil noise...that's what makes this song a fuckin classic
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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby squall » Jan 9th, '10, 01:06

Emadyville wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Well that's how I've always rationalized it as "he wouldn't make such a big mistake and not notice".

But he actually makes quite a lot of trivial grammatical mistakes if you look. Obviously, since he's had to teach himself it, it's going to happen.

One example is in "Cum on Everybody" he says...

"I'm bored out of my gored so I TOOK a hammer..."

I'M BORED = Present tense. As in, I'm bored... Right now.

I TOOK = Past tense. As in, I was bored, yesterday.

So to say "I'm bored... So I took" doesn't make sense really lol. But I think it's more to do with his natural Detroit grammar. Every inner-city (mine included) has like... Natural slang occurances in the way they speak that is wrong grammatically but becomes the norm in where they're from.


You obviously don't rap, since you obviously don't understand how songs are written, you're 0-2 in this thread :shifty:



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He says : "I'm bored out of my gourd" -- so I took a hammer
and nailed my foot to the floorboard of my Ford

the lines are under quotes. That means Eminem is saying that stuff LIVE. Then he is doin the action of hammering thingy. Try 2 picture the scene. U cant expect All Music Guide to have rated an album 5 Stars just like that
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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 01:17

Emadyville wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Well that's how I've always rationalized it as "he wouldn't make such a big mistake and not notice".

But he actually makes quite a lot of trivial grammatical mistakes if you look. Obviously, since he's had to teach himself it, it's going to happen.

One example is in "Cum on Everybody" he says...

"I'm bored out of my gored so I TOOK a hammer..."

I'M BORED = Present tense. As in, I'm bored... Right now.

I TOOK = Past tense. As in, I was bored, yesterday.

So to say "I'm bored... So I took" doesn't make sense really lol. But I think it's more to do with his natural Detroit grammar. Every inner-city (mine included) has like... Natural slang occurances in the way they speak that is wrong grammatically but becomes the norm in where they're from.


You obviously don't rap, since you obviously don't understand how songs are written, you're 0-2 in this thread :shifty:


Actually I have written raps but you don't need to be a rapper to understand how songs are written you fucking moron.

I've been listening to rap music and Eminem for over a decade and know them both inside out so maybe you should know what you're talking about before talking shit.

I realize Eminem jumps from 1st to 3rd person, from the narrator to the guy in the scene. He does it beautifully in things like "Buffalo Bill".

But a lot of his early work like on The Slim Shady LP - Had genuine grammatical mistakes. I doubt even he would dispute that. You obviously don't understand the English language if you don't realize there are.
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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Emadyville » Jan 9th, '10, 01:23

EminemBase wrote:Actually I have written raps but you don't need to be a rapper to understand how songs are written you fucking moron.

I've been listening to rap music and Eminem for over a decade and know them both inside out so maybe you should know what you're talking about before talking shit.

I realize Eminem jumps from 1st to 3rd person, from the narrator to the guy in the scene. He does it beautifully in things like "Buffalo Bill".

But a lot of his early work like on The Slim Shady LP - Had genuine grammatical mistakes. I doubt even he would dispute that. You obviously don't understand the English language if you don't realize there are.


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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 01:25

Emadyville wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Actually I have written raps but you don't need to be a rapper to understand how songs are written you fucking moron.

I've been listening to rap music and Eminem for over a decade and know them both inside out so maybe you should know what you're talking about before talking shit.

I realize Eminem jumps from 1st to 3rd person, from the narrator to the guy in the scene. He does it beautifully in things like "Buffalo Bill".

But a lot of his early work like on The Slim Shady LP - Had genuine grammatical mistakes. I doubt even he would dispute that. You obviously don't understand the English language if you don't realize there are.


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No you FAIL by using that term. Lame fuck. Are you so unoriginal you can't come back with anything so have to resort to some shitty one-word cheeseball... Oh, yeah, you are. Evidently.
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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Jens14 » Jan 9th, '10, 01:28

Also "From the air in the night" while it's "In the air tonight"

It's from the character Stan so it might be intentional though.
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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Emadyville » Jan 9th, '10, 01:29

No, you're just one of those know it alls, who can't admit when their wrong, resort to childish remarks when they're wrong, and it's kind of sad. At least you're consistent tho I'll give you that, cause you seem to do it to me every time I say something that makes you look stupid, yet only after you reply with some intense "comeback".
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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 01:37

Emadyville wrote:No, you're just one of those know it alls, who can't admit when their wrong, resort to childish remarks when they're wrong, and it's kind of sad. At least you're consistent tho I'll give you that, cause you seem to do it to me every time I say something that makes you look stupid, yet only after you reply with some intense "comeback".


Actually that's you. You're a limited bigot who refuses to consider anything other than his own opinion. You act as if you KNOW for a fact it's not a mistake in "Stan" when you don't.

Where as I just said seems like an odd mistake to make and opened a discussion on it. I didn't say "this is 100% a mistake, why did he do it".

You were the one who began the pathetic name-calling by resorting to calling me an idiot when I disagreed with your view.

You've yet to make me look stupid believe me. You continue to do that to yourself though. Cretin. Bye bigot.
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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby embm » Jan 9th, '10, 01:40

omg :whistle:




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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Emadyville » Jan 9th, '10, 01:41

Well if I had not called you an idiot I would have been saying something else untrue, and you're the bigot, lets be realistic. If you would like to respond and waste more of time pm me, since this topic has been spammed the fuck outta, which is partly my fault, which I do apologize for.
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Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 01:44

Emadyville wrote:Well if I had not called you an idiot I would have been saying something else untrue, and you're the bigot, lets be realistic. If you would like to respond and waste more of time pm me, since this topic has been spammed the fuck outta, which is partly my fault, which I do apologize for.


Well then if you are going to light the sparks by starting the name-calling don't start bitching and act like it's childish when it gets thrown back at you. I was quite happy to keep it civil but the moment I disagreed with you, respectfully, you resorted to it.

So it would seem you're the bigot. I said "I disagree with you" and gave reasons why. That is not bigotry. That's called a discussion. You know, since this is a forum.

You however, just said "you're an idiot" because I didn't automatically agree with you = Bigotry.

That is all. Another on my foe list, bye.
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