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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby EminemBase » Jan 15th, '10, 11:46

Relapse.LP wrote:
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Relapse.LP wrote:Fact remains the accent sucks. :y:


No that's not a fact. That's an opinion.

It doesn't suck to me and there's more than one accent. He uses it to bend words and make the wordplay / symmetry of rhyming more emphasized.

Sounds awesome to me on most stuff like "3AM" and "Buffalo Bill"

I knew you would fall for the Ghostface-getting-kicked-in-the-balls-screaming voice. :y:


No it's not 'falling' for anything. It's just not dislking it. It sounds class to me.

And that's not because I'm a Stan (getting really bored of that lame evasion now), it's just because it DOESN'T sound awful to me. His flows sound addictive and crafted.

You just can't accept not everybody hates it. Where as I can accept some people do hate it. I accept that some hate it and some (like me), like it. Where as you just think "it's awful" and that's a fact and anybody who disagrees is either deluded, lying or a Stan. Because you're a bigot.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby KillahBee » Jan 15th, '10, 12:33

Oh yeah heres the link to that review i posted

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/eminem/relapse/

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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby dR3 » Jan 15th, '10, 15:18

KillahBee wrote:Oh yeah heres the link to that review i posted

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/eminem/relapse/

The dudes name is ''SeaJaiye''

Thanks. :y:
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby LLockhart86 » Jan 15th, '10, 15:52

EminemBase wrote:
Relapse.LP wrote:Fact remains the accent sucks. :y:


No that's not a fact. That's an opinion.

It doesn't suck to me and there's more than one accent. He uses it to bend words and make the wordplay / symmetry of rhyming more emphasized.

Sounds awesome to me on most stuff like "3AM" and "Buffalo Bill"


Me and Base are on the same page!!! Accent is dope :y:
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby 2sDay » Jan 15th, '10, 19:19

llockhart86 wrote:
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Relapse.LP wrote:Fact remains the accent sucks. :y:


No that's not a fact. That's an opinion.

It doesn't suck to me and there's more than one accent. He uses it to bend words and make the wordplay / symmetry of rhyming more emphasized.

Sounds awesome to me on most stuff like "3AM" and "Buffalo Bill"


Me and Base are on the same page!!! Accent is dope :y:

dope but overused at times....
Buffalo Bill, Stay Wide Awake, and Old Time's Sake even Drop The Bomb On 'Em' where my favorites with the accent. :y:
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby EminemBase » Jan 15th, '10, 19:23

^ Well I don't think it's overused since he was trying to create a new style or set of styles with the accents.

Which he did. He likes to sound different and fresh every album.

So it would of been weird if he just used it on like 3 songs on the whole album lmao. Would of sounded totally random and unconsistant.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby 2sDay » Jan 15th, '10, 19:28

EminemBase wrote:^ Well I don't think it's overused since he was trying to create a new style or set of styles with the accents.

Which he did. He likes to sound different and fresh every album.

So it would of been weird if he just used it on like 3 songs on the whole album lmao. Would of sounded totally random and unconsistant.

you make a point but honestly....
do you prefer accent(s) or normal, sometimes angry voice?
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby EminemBase » Jan 15th, '10, 19:34

2sDay wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Well I don't think it's overused since he was trying to create a new style or set of styles with the accents.

Which he did. He likes to sound different and fresh every album.

So it would of been weird if he just used it on like 3 songs on the whole album lmao. Would of sounded totally random and unconsistant.

you make a point but honestly....
do you prefer accent(s) or normal, sometimes angry voice?


Erm... Well right now I prefer the accent(s) because it sounds fresh.

I've heard his "The Way I Am" voice, I don't really wanna hear him repeat flows.

Obviously most other rappers keep one or two flows forever and it doesn't bother people. But Em has made it his art to change his flow literally nearly every other track.

So if I heard the same flow, it wouldn't feel fresh as I'm so used to hearing him change. That's part of what makes it exciting to anticipate new Eminem material. Waiting to hear how he will sound. Put it this way, I'm certainly glad he did create the songs he did for Relapse and Refill. Using the voices he did. Otherwise I wouldn't have "Stay Wide Awake", "3am" or "Buffalo Bill" amongst others.

There's something about these new flows that feels more addictive than ever. He's not even using that complex vocab now, he's just writing the lyrics in such a way and flowing them so interestingly and using the accent(s) to bolderize the rhymes so much. It makes the tracks fascinating.

This is also one of the things that puts him way above Canibus to me. Canibus desperately grasps for complex vocabulary to convey tid-bits of pop-psychology and neuroscience to try and show-off his skim-knowledge of terminology. Where as Em can use very basic words and still sound more intricate by the way he places and flows the words. Not to mention his poetic phrasing and abstract linking.

It makes them feel layered and crafted. Like the first few times I'm just enjoying it. Next few times trying to decipher every single line. Next few times enjoying it and trying to flow along. You keep hearing and appreciating new things.

This is what gives the new tracks ultimate replay value for me. It's not all about content. Besides which I find serial killer songs greatly entertaining anyway. Nothing gives you as much opportunity for vivid imagery and manic wordplay as murder. Or something like that, something extreme that you can fictionalize and exaggerate.

He couldn't do it as excitingly as he's been doing if he was just rapping about depressive emotions.
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Re: Relapse is Epic

Postby 2sDay » Jan 15th, '10, 19:51

EminemBase wrote:
2sDay wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Well I don't think it's overused since he was trying to create a new style or set of styles with the accents.

Which he did. He likes to sound different and fresh every album.

So it would of been weird if he just used it on like 3 songs on the whole album lmao. Would of sounded totally random and unconsistant.

you make a point but honestly....
do you prefer accent(s) or normal, sometimes angry voice?


Erm... Well right now I prefer the accent(s) because it sounds fresh.

I've heard his "The Way I Am" voice, I don't really wanna hear him repeat flows.

Obviously most other rappers keep one or two flows forever and it doesn't bother people. But Em has made it his art to change his flow literally nearly every other track.

So if I heard the same flow, it wouldn't feel fresh as I'm so used to hearing him change. That's part of what makes it exciting to anticipate new Eminem material. Waiting to hear how he will sound. Put it this way, I'm certainly glad he did create the songs he did for Relapse and Refill. Using the voices he did. Otherwise I wouldn't have "Stay Wide Awake", "3am" or "Buffalo Bill" amongst others.

There's something about these new flows that feels more addictive than ever. He's not even using that complex vocab now, he's just writing the lyrics in such a way and flowing them so interestingly and using the accent(s) to bolderize the rhymes so much. It makes the tracks fascinating.

This is also one of the things that puts him way above Canibus to me. Canibus desperately grasps for complex vocabulary to convey tid-bits of pop-psychology and neuroscience to try and show-off his skim-knowledge of terminology. Where as Em can use very basic words and still sound more intricate by the way he places and flows the words. Not to mention his poetic phrasing and abstract linking.

It makes them feel layered and crafted. Like the first few times I'm just enjoying it. Next few times trying to decipher every single line. Next few times enjoying it and trying to flow along. You keep hearing and appreciating new things.

This is what gives the new tracks ultimate replay value for me. It's not all about content. Besides which I find serial killer songs greatly entertaining anyway. Nothing gives you as much opportunity for vivid imagery and manic wordplay as murder. Or something like that, something extreme that you can fictionalize and exaggerate.

He couldn't do it as excitingly as he's been doing if he was just rapping about depressive emotions.

I definatly don't want another "The Way I Am" I want different subjects other than killing and raping cuz he definatly has shit too talk about after 5 years. And trust me if he repeats flows i won't like it either but i just want a flow/voice that is fresh but not accent-ish either. Cuz too me Buffalo Bill has replay value only cuz im performing it at my school in a few months and it would really show my overall rapping skills. Accent is great for me but it gets annoying after i here an accent and the constant killing of girls. anyways props to em for trying somthing fresh and new. :y:
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