da r star wrote:@EminemBase : You said Stan was watered down lyrically. Well I thought so, but over the years I've realized that there were nice scheme in it. Sometime the ending rhyme is simplistic but in the line it's complex like "Sometime I scribble addresses to sloppy when I jott em". The alliteration with the "s" is pretty cool. There's plenty of "hidden" gem in that songs.
Yeah but I wasn't saying that to take away from the lyricism of "Stan". Like I said, it had to be that way.
I was complementing the lyricism because he's able to craft conversation through lyrics that flows beautifully, is entertaining, chilling... Everything you want from a great writer and yet doesn't seem contrived, forced, pompous or out of place. Ever.
It feels like conversations are happening and the rhymes are accidental. Like it's too good to be true. It's essential that conversational pieces should have that element of realism. Otherwise I don't think they resonate anywhere near as well.
You can go surreal, off-the-wall, insane, zany, WHATEVER but as long as that fundamental realism is strongly rooted, it connects. It becomes powerful and timeless. Like "Stan" and "Kim".
But I think his lyricism has reached new heights and I think on R2... He may have one or two of these 'types' of melodramas. But I think they'll be more lyrical. More complex. But still sound and feel real. He's just on another level now. Especially with his flows, wow.