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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby classthe_king » Jan 21st, '10, 04:02

After listening to Forever and Drop the World i can confidently say there is a 0% chance that R2 will be the next encore.
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby Emadyville » Jan 21st, '10, 04:04

classthe_king wrote:After listening to Forever and Drop the World i can confidently say there is a 0% chance that R2 will be the next encore.


damn you had to listen to them to figure that out :shifty:

haha i'm playin, but yeah, i felt pretty confident after encore there would never be another encore :y:
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby UofLCard » Jan 21st, '10, 04:09

classthe_king wrote:After listening to Forever and Drop the World i can confidently say there is a 0% chance that R2 will be the next encore.


I don't think Forever and DTW were that amazing, personally, but either way I believe R2 should be fantasic.
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby Bistnal » Jan 21st, '10, 04:13

UofLCardFan08 wrote:
classthe_king wrote:After listening to Forever and Drop the World i can confidently say there is a 0% chance that R2 will be the next encore.


I don't think Forever and DTW were that amazing, personally, but either way I believe R2 should be fantasic.

They weren't MMLP amazing but they showed that Em is still rhyming good and is serious now and non accented :D
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby Emadyville » Jan 21st, '10, 04:16

Menzo wrote:No, Em definitely won't fall off with Relapse 2. I don't know why, but I'm so fuckin hyped for this album. I've been listening to MMLP a lot lately, and if we get just a glimmer of that, I'd be so fuckin happy. Especially with Just Blaze making a few tracks that only dope songs could flow to, the album is definitely going to be amazing.

But...we will never REALLY know til it's out.


I'm as hyped as you I can tell, I'm just not vocal about it on here that much, cause I really do feel it will be sick because of what you said and some others on this topic, and we just have to wait ;)
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby Bistnal » Jan 21st, '10, 04:19

Emadyville wrote:
Menzo wrote:No, Em definitely won't fall off with Relapse 2. I don't know why, but I'm so fuckin hyped for this album. I've been listening to MMLP a lot lately, and if we get just a glimmer of that, I'd be so fuckin happy. Especially with Just Blaze making a few tracks that only dope songs could flow to, the album is definitely going to be amazing.

But...we will never REALLY know til it's out.


I'm as hyped as you I can tell, I'm just not vocal about it on here that much, cause I really do feel it will be sick because of what you said and some others on this topic, and we just have to wait ;)

That's the hard part lol. I hope we get some kind of info soon that will in some way confirm if our hopes are accurate.
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby paperboyslim » Jan 21st, '10, 05:29

EminemBase wrote:He didn't fall off to begin with.

To me a rapper falls off when he becomes bad at his art and / or loses passion for the point of it.

Eminem has done neither. He's more skilled and passionate than ever. His flows and lyricism are immsense. No doubt you hate the 'stupid fucking accent'. Fine...

But some, like myself, don't. I think it sounds good. So it's not a fact he fell off just because you don't like his new accent or because he ain't bitching about fame. He's stayed totally true to the artform and is pushing himself. And is better than ever in many aspects.

And no he won't with R2 in my opinion either. He said he's putting everything he's got into it.


Nah, he fell off. Look at how many people are saying he fell off and Relapse was not a good album, and all these kids, mostly stans, backing up em just because its something eminem put out,
Relapse overall is not such a hot album man, we all know tht. you dont hear ppl saying "relapse was the shit" everyone always claims it as okay or they just say they like it,
Well ya he did indeed fall off, ha ENCORE AND RELAPSE wow yeah he improved... from ENCORE. BUT DEF NOT THE EMINEM SHOW. THE MMLP OR THE SSLP now those are REAL LEGIT EMINEM ALBUMS.
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby psu24 » Jan 21st, '10, 07:32

Well I don't think he ever completely fell off and falling off after Relapse would be pretty hard imo, if it's not better than Relapse then i'd be shocked. Relapse was great for what it was but it wasn't by any means a great album, classic material. I expect an album on the Caliber of Eminem Show. Lyrically I definitely think he'll step it up with him being more focused. I know it might sound stupid but i'd like to see minimal production from Dre, like 2-3 songs and at least 4-5 Em produced songs. Either way just the fact that he's working with Just Blaze is great news, no way he fucks this one up.
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 21st, '10, 11:16

paperboyslim wrote:
EminemBase wrote:He didn't fall off to begin with.

To me a rapper falls off when he becomes bad at his art and / or loses passion for the point of it.

Eminem has done neither. He's more skilled and passionate than ever. His flows and lyricism are immsense. No doubt you hate the 'stupid fucking accent'. Fine...

But some, like myself, don't. I think it sounds good. So it's not a fact he fell off just because you don't like his new accent or because he ain't bitching about fame. He's stayed totally true to the artform and is pushing himself. And is better than ever in many aspects.

And no he won't with R2 in my opinion either. He said he's putting everything he's got into it.


Nah, he fell off. Look at how many people are saying he fell off and Relapse was not a good album, and all these kids, mostly stans, backing up em just because its something eminem put out,
Relapse overall is not such a hot album man, we all know tht. you dont hear ppl saying "relapse was the shit" everyone always claims it as okay or they just say they like it,
Well ya he did indeed fall off, ha ENCORE AND RELAPSE wow yeah he improved... from ENCORE. BUT DEF NOT THE EMINEM SHOW. THE MMLP OR THE SSLP now those are REAL LEGIT EMINEM ALBUMS.


No he didn't fall off. I couldn't give a fuck what other people say, I care what I think. And no, I'm not a stan just because I don't agree with you about Relapse.

Lyrically, it's intense and his flows are magic. It's a very fucking good album.

No I don't prefer it to MMLP or TES but so what, it's a great album. Done. He didn't fall off. AT ALL.

Falling off is losing your talent and / or selling out. Can you honestly say he's BAD at rapping? Can you say he's a shit rhymer / flower? Didn't think so. Can you say he sold out? Nope, not at all. So in what aspect has he fell off, because you don't like his new voice or songs about murder? That's not falling off, that's personal preference.
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby timeconsumer » Jan 21st, '10, 11:25

"he didnt fall off he just took a break"


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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 21st, '10, 11:26

timeconsumer wrote:"he didnt fall off he just took a break"


hahahaha


How is that funny? That's a fact.

Would you like me to prove it several times over and make you look a cock...

He says in a video in 2004 he's taking a break from solo shit. Then in 2005 he also says it. That's why he put out "When I'm Gone" too.

It's common knowledge fool.
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby Shady'baby. » Jan 21st, '10, 11:40

I wasnt hyped about relapse 1 cuz i knew he was gone for a long time and had to get used to the game, but after i saw how shitty relapse 1 was im wayy less hyped about R2 cuz i just know its going to be shit, so basicaly my interest in eminem is decreasing bit by bit....unless he comes back good with R2 ofc
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby Shady'baby. » Jan 21st, '10, 11:41

EminemBase wrote:
paperboyslim wrote:
EminemBase wrote:He didn't fall off to begin with.

To me a rapper falls off when he becomes bad at his art and / or loses passion for the point of it.

Eminem has done neither. He's more skilled and passionate than ever. His flows and lyricism are immsense. No doubt you hate the 'stupid fucking accent'. Fine...

But some, like myself, don't. I think it sounds good. So it's not a fact he fell off just because you don't like his new accent or because he ain't bitching about fame. He's stayed totally true to the artform and is pushing himself. And is better than ever in many aspects.

And no he won't with R2 in my opinion either. He said he's putting everything he's got into it.


Nah, he fell off. Look at how many people are saying he fell off and Relapse was not a good album, and all these kids, mostly stans, backing up em just because its something eminem put out,
Relapse overall is not such a hot album man, we all know tht. you dont hear ppl saying "relapse was the shit" everyone always claims it as okay or they just say they like it,
Well ya he did indeed fall off, ha ENCORE AND RELAPSE wow yeah he improved... from ENCORE. BUT DEF NOT THE EMINEM SHOW. THE MMLP OR THE SSLP now those are REAL LEGIT EMINEM ALBUMS.


No he didn't fall off. I couldn't give a fuck what other people say, I care what I think. And no, I'm not a stan just because I don't agree with you about Relapse.

Lyrically, it's intense and his flows are magic. It's a very fucking good album.

No I don't prefer it to MMLP or TES but so what, it's a great album. Done. He didn't fall off. AT ALL.

Falling off is losing your talent and / or selling out. Can you honestly say he's BAD at rapping? Can you say he's a shit rhymer / flower? Didn't think so. Can you say he sold out? Nope, not at all. So in what aspect has he fell off, because you don't like his new voice or songs about murder? That's not falling off, that's personal preference.


Falling off is when people dont like your shit anymore in my opinion :p
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby EminemBase » Jan 21st, '10, 11:55

Shady'baby. wrote:Falling off is when people dont like your shit anymore in my opinion :p


But that makes no sense. How would you ever measure that...

There's always plenty of people that don't like your shit. And always (easily) more people who dislike than like you.

So how would you measure if anybody had fallen off. There were people who hated Eminem and said he was a pile of shit when MMLP dropped... But I'm sure you'd agree he hadn't fallen off on MMLP. It's not a proper way to properly gauge it. Unless you go by sales say and Em's album was the highest selling rap album of the year so he hasn't fallen off by that measure either...

I also think there's a misrepresentation here. Most people are under the impression most people don't like the album. I've been on other hip-hop forums and I remember usual Em-haters saying every track is fire.

So I think the fairest way is to say if they've lost their skill or sold out. And Em has done neither. And I love his shit. So... Not fell off in my opinion.
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Re: will eminem fall off again with relapse 2 ?

Postby Shady'baby. » Jan 21st, '10, 12:18

Well, Eminem always used to be Huge with every album, people go crazy ever magazine wants him on the cover, famous rappers say hes the best ever, whenever his songs come on people know all the words and sing along and so on, with this album i didint get that feeling, and alot of people that arent Eminem haters dislike this album, i mean we got tons of people here on trshady that dont like the album so that should say something, afterall we are his diehard fans and what not. So in my opinion alot of people didint like this album, and who is there to judge an album than the majority
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