Why does Eminem avoids to smile?

[B.A.D.]

its not like he does it on purpouse you know

I have a problem that often does that, I aksed him the same and he laughed... he said the action controls him lol, and he know when he does that but it feels weird....

Its like when people give you a complement and you want to smile but something like doesnt let you, but you actully want to smile..... lol

there are actors that even have that problem and often shows in movies, like the dude from Indiana Jones, I keep forgetting his name... you know, the han solo guy

[Relapse.LP]

Eminem is so fucking sick, word.

[Dark Blue]

well only one reason...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbBo05ZpdoA

[OMEGA]

Smiling is for pussies

[Dark Blue]

Smiling is for pussies

[EminemBase]

Because he has ADHD and doesn't feel natural or the need to smile without reason.

(sorry for this stupidly long post again to those who don't like them, didn't start off as one but I had to fully explain this and it started to get out of control so I thought fuck it. But to those who don't mind reading, I think this is a good theory on why he doesn't smile often.)

I have it and I've said it a few times but I can't really make this reply make sense or be relevant unless I state that lmao. So yeah I have it and I'm exactly the same and people have made comments like you never smile and in my head I think back and am like "oh yeah, I don't really".

It's not really a conscious choice like "I'm gonna decide to look like a moody prick and try and seem cool". I just have no urge to smile unless I actually find something funny. I can't just walk around faking it. Most people smile for no apparent reason because they feel comfortable where as I feel comfortable not.

There's many reasons I think he has it. From his lyric sheets... I don't think I need to expand on those very much for anyone to see why lmao. Erm, also the fact he can't draw freestyle imagery from his head but can draw things he can see very well. I used to sit around drawing all day and be great at it and have always been like this too.

All of this sounds very specific but it's down to one thing: Low-dopamine levels. Dopamine is a Neurotransmitter that actively controls your ability to focus and sustain attention on things which don't provide immediate mental stimulation. This is the reason why ADHD people can't focus on tasks they find boring, it sounds silly as if "oh... Nobody can". But quite clearly, many can.

Because most people have enough dopamine to be able to force themselves through boring activity but if you have abnormally low levels of dopamine, which is basically 'brain energy', you can't hold your attention on things unless they're of immediate interest. Your dopamine levels rise with stimulation, this is why ADHD people are often obsessive / addictive - Another reason, notice Em said himself he's an addict with everything. Got off drugs and starting running 17 miles... It's a mindset.

But yeah, aside from that, dopamine controls your mood / motivation and stimulation. So if your dopamine is abnormally low, your mood will be abnormally low most of the time too unless you force it up with external activity. Hence the reason you often find most gambling and drug (myself once both) addicts usually have ADHD. It's not because there's an 'adhd' or 'addict' gene or even such thing as a born gambling addict.

It's because stimulant drugs (cocaine especially) and gambling provide IMMEDIATE and startling increases in dopamine. So to a person with very low dopamine, it feels like self-medication much more so than a normal person. So the chance of going back to that thing... Very high indeed. It's an addictive brain, born out of the crave for natural brain energy that people with this and similar disorders such as bi-polar are constantly starved of.

So that along with many other things, just his behaviour in general. The zany voices, the instant switching of behaviour, the tangents. ADHD people are often alone more than most people (note, Em often recalls being iscolated) due to the fact they feel bored around most company and need to find immediate self-stimulation.

In Em's case - Writing rhymes, cartoons and comic books. So in their isolation, they often create a lot more self-humour, self-analyze a lot more and this is often where this... Self-medicating, over the top sense of humour is born from. As you also see in Robin Williams, Jim Carrey... Notice how their 'wackiness' is all the same lmao and how they're all very self-analysing and meticulous.

Sorry for the FUCKING long post again, I didn't mean for it to get this long I just have to explain it properly or I feel the post is pointless lmao. So yeah, this is why I think Em doesn't smile. It's a natural inner-depression due to lack of dopamine which puts your inner-mood on a constant low and requires OUTSIDE stimulation in order to be raised.

I'm exactly the same but then when I see a good friend I turn into a ball of hyperness. It's a lack of internal stimulation, he just doesn't feel like smiling, naturally. He feels uncomfortable acting like he's happy when he doesn't feel that. He may not even be depressed, it's just his normal state.

[Dark Blue]

^^ wow....just....wow

[2sDay]

^^ wow....just....wow

lol only read parts that had Em on them

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OK, don't meant to rain on your parade but you are not describing ADHD. I know a lot of people with it, and yes it's where they can't focus on tasks without immediate satisfaction. ADHD and shit don't have anything to do with fucking depression though. IDK if even you know it though, since you are throwing a blanket "ADHD" term around a LOT of different things. I'm the same way as you describe, can't draw from my head but if there's a picture to look at I can draw it perfectly, even if it takes me hours. I've also got major depression and OCD, and smile hardly at all . The shit about the dopamine is right, but the "obsessive" and "addicting" stuff is all from depression and OCD, with the depression "causing" the low dopamine levels. I'm the same way, once something really gets my attention it nags me until I get it done. Once I figure something out or do it enough I have to do it the same way and often make it a routine. Similar to the running thing with Em... It's OCD and depression, ADHD has nothing to do with it. That's about not being attentive, and if that were the case he wouldn't be able to spend all of his time writing rhymes and doing nothing.

[EminemBase]

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OK, don't meant to rain on your parade but you are not describing ADHD. I know a lot of people with it, and yes it's where they can't focus on tasks without immediate satisfaction. ADHD and shit don't have anything to do with fucking depression though. IDK if even you know it though, since you are throwing a blanket "ADHD" term around a LOT of different things. I'm the same way as you describe, can't draw from my head but if there's a picture to look at I can draw it perfectly, even if it takes me hours. I've also got major depression and OCD, and smile hardly at all . The shit about the dopamine is right, but the "obsessive" and "addicting" stuff is all from depression and OCD, with the depression "causing" the low dopamine levels. I'm the same way, once something really gets my attention it nags me until I get it done. Once I figure something out or do it enough I have to do it the same way and often make it a routine. Similar to the running thing with Em... It's OCD and depression, ADHD has nothing to do with it. That's about not being attentive, and if that were the case he wouldn't be able to spend all of his time writing rhymes and doing nothing.

Oh my goodness. No, believe me, I am speaking about ADHD and I know more than you could fucking imagine. I also know somebody with it... Two in fact - Myself and a friend.

I have been studying it intensely for over a year also and I know exactly what I am talking about and you absolutely do not.

Firstly, why do you think ADHD people can't focus on things without immediate stimulation? It's DUE to fucking low dopamine. It's a lack of natural brain resource to sustain attention and mood in order to carry out tasks which you don't feel motivated to carry out.

Also, the lack of ability to sustain attention from task to task is due to poor working memory. A specific type of memory that deals with task to task attention-span. This is what older people lose. They don't lose their general memory, this is why they can still remember things about their life and details about you. What they lose, is their working memory. Their task to task memory.

Working memory is a motor function. If you have ADHD, you are typically 3-4 years underdeveloped in this department. But over-developed in others. Like a car with no breaks. You have too many thought pathways and not enough equipment to deal with them. Or... The equipment you do have is under-developed, it's broken somewhat.

The lack of working memory is also why people with ADHD go off in tangents when speaking. Working memory is your attention span not just task to task. But of course, thought to thought. So this is why people with it often talk in circles, they interrupt themselves and others.

Low-dopamine, also the reason why they're incredibly impulsive is because low dopamines put you in a lower mood most of the time but when something raises that mood, you jump at it because it's an immediate change. You can't control the sudden rise. Which is why people with it jump in conversations, can't control the urge to say things etc.

Also the reason people with it are often argumentative. Not because they like fighting but because debates are a natural source of brain-stimulation and as anybody who knows me here knows, I debate every word. I don't feel like I can help it, it's just the way I naturally think and it's too overwhelming to fight. Your post for example made me want to eat my monitor in rage.

Depression doesn't cause the low-dopamines. Low-dopemines cause the depression and depression keeps them low. ADHD causes addictive behaviour due to a lack of natural brain stimulation which the ADHD-person is constantly trying to compensate for. Either with conflict seeking behaviour (debates etc.), drugs, gambling, video games, anything which gives this person immediate high-stimulation.

Oh, just gotta insert - LMMMMFAAAAOOO at your bit about ADHD having 'nothing' to do with depression. You've just proven to me you know FUCK ALL about ADHD you insulting moron. It's been proven beyond reasonable doubt that ADHD causes much higher rates of depression. This is why you are prescribed RITALIN. Ritalin helps you focus and think clearer by giving you a dopamine boost, a consistent rise over a time span of hours.

Don't forget, dopamines control your MOOOOOOOD too. They control how happy you feel. Remember that. So if you have abnormally LOW levels of dopamine going to your brain (what you use to control your body) - then OBVIOUSLY you will feel fucking low, by your very nature. You can't be happy when your natural state is unhappy. This is why ADHD children constantly seek external stimulation, are more commonly isolated and glue themselves to video games.

They escape the boring reality and the external release provides non-stop relief.

ADHD isn't just a lack of attention you moron. The inability to focus your attention as well task to task and on things you don't immediately enjoy are just one small part in ADHD. It's a lack of working memory, it creates addictive behaviour, personality flaws, it's a brain-developmental disorder. It's a motor-function disorder. It's genetic, not learned. It's not behavioural, it's genetic and chemical.

This is the reason for the natural state of low and depression. ADHD is absolutely tied and related to depression, confusion and aggetation in every way.

Oh and Eminem writing rhymes for hours is a perfect example of his addictive escapism. That's what he loves doing, it stimulates him. ADHD doesn't mean you can't pay attention to anything. It means you can't pay attention to things which don't interest or stimulate you, immediately.

He loves writing rhymes. Also, people with ADHD often go into a thing called 'hyper-focus' which he's described many times. Of just zoning out. I for example go on obsessive, information bursts, just hammering an entire World event for hours on end, totally losing myself in it and feeling like all the information is on a plate and I can't eat it fast enough. Insanely obsessive and escapist.

So why don't you take your shitty little Google News-informed, pop-knowledge, wipe your ass with it, flush it down the toilet and have the decency to challenge my informed knowledge of something I have when you know what the fuck you are talking about. You ignorant piece of shit. FLUSH.

[2sDay]

^^^WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!

[2sDay]

you really don't have to call him names, EmBase.

he's british.....

[EminemBase]

you really don't have to call him names, EmBase.

I do when he has the audacity to insult and basically flat-out denounce my informed opinion, backed up with a year's worth of intense knowledge, personal experience etc.

When he clearly has no idea what he's talking about has some lame pop / skim-knowledge of some mental disorders and replies as if he's lecturing me. Cheeky fuck.

I didn't ask for his reply. Once again, I posed an AIMLESS reply, aimed only at the target of the original question. And another prick singles me out and starts a fucking debate. So don't be surprised if I'm annoyed and insult the guy.

[iZo]

Someone got Ethered

[EminemIVLife]

He makes a conscious decision not to.