Ca$his & Rikanatti Workin' on TAOD and Relapse 2!

[EminemBase]

^ It's clear from this post you didn't even read or... Maybe didn't understand my reply.

Because you're repeating what you said before I responded to you, you total retard.

I can't be assed repeating myself. Either have the decency / intelligence to read, comprehend and digest what I replied to you or shut the fuck up because YOUR ignorance is what I can't believe here. Fucking moron.

In fact, you falling back on this stupid, retarded cop-out of "Oh you're just a stan, can't say anything bad about Eminem" once again has pissed me off too much. I'm sick of dumb fucks relying on this in every argument. Argue with yourself now fool, I'm ignoring your babble.

[macdaddy019967]

suck my dick faggot. Using the word "gayest" what are you twelve? Macdaddy, you're probably a virgin. Go fuck yaself.

haha your the one telling me to suck your dick lmao
and lol at me being a virgin

[KaRtLiDgE]

^ It's clear from this post you didn't even read or... Maybe didn't understand my reply.

Because you're repeating what you said before I responded to you, you total retard.

I can't be assed repeating myself. Either have the decency / intelligence to read, comprehend and digest what I replied to you or shut the fuck up because YOUR ignorance is what I can't believe here. Fucking moron.

I obviously read your post if I'm using your words to debate you. You said you can see his talent in Big Weenie. I never said you said it was a good song. I just went through how it is hard for me to believe how you can see that when Big Weenie is a simple flow, not a perfect one from Eminem, and so many other artists have good flows. And that Cashis has a lot of better songs than Big Weenie.Your making me repeat myself now. Answer my post and stop dancing around it.

Lol good, ignore me. You don't want to admit you are wrong about "Seeing talent immediately" from one song (Big Weenie). The truth is, if you could see talent in Big Weenie, then you can see talent in every rapper out today besides Wocka Flocka and Soulja Boy.

[EminemBase]

^ It's clear from this post you didn't even read or... Maybe didn't understand my reply.

Because you're repeating what you said before I responded to you, you total retard.

I can't be assed repeating myself. Either have the decency / intelligence to read, comprehend and digest what I replied to you or shut the fuck up because YOUR ignorance is what I can't believe here. Fucking moron.

I obviously read your post if I'm using your words to debate you. You said you can see his talent in Big Weenie. I never said you said it was a good song. I just went through how it is hard for me to believe how you can see that when Big Weenie is a simple flow, not a perfect one from Eminem, and so many other artists have good flows. And that Cashis has a lot of better songs than Big Weenie.Your making me repeat myself now. Answer my post and stop dancing around it.

You actually did say I thought it was a good song at first despite me not saying it.

Yes I can absolutely see talent in "Big Weenie" and I think anybody who can't or is just approaching this comment even as I write, with a black / white view of OH THAT'S JUST POINTLESS STUPID SHIT MAN AHAAH obviously doesn't appreciate lyricism.

Like the truth syrum bit. Ca$his isn't even close to as creative as that. Em's worst shits on Ca$his' best in so many aspects.

And Em's flow is absolutely on-point. He never goes off-flow. Even when his lyricism is sub-par or depressive, around the Encore period, his flow is always on-point. In fact Encore is the only album I heard him stumble a few words but his rhythm and timing is always perfect.

It's more about the clarity though, the way he emphasizes every syllable, the way it's been written, the schemes, the toying with the listener. These are all things Ca$his and others do not have. Also, that song is just childs play for Em. At that point, people were so used to him, you're used to it, you know what to expect from him and you expect more.

But in comparison to what other rappers do it's still another level up. Majority of rappers don't even contemplate toying with the ideas he does on that let alone carry them out. And Ca$his' lyricism is just lame in general. It's generic, it's not electrifying, it's not original. It's nothing. I could do better myself.

[KaRtLiDgE]

You actually did say I thought it was a good song at first despite me not saying it.

Yes I can absolutely see talent in "Big Weenie" and I think anybody who can't or is just approaching this comment even as I write, with a black / white view of OH THAT'S JUST POINTLESS STUPID SHIT MAN AHAAH obviously doesn't appreciate lyricism.

Like the truth syrum bit. Ca$his isn't even close to as creative as that. Em's worst shits on Ca$his' best in so many aspects.

And Em's flow is absolutely on-point. He never goes off-flow. Even when his lyricism is sub-par or depressive, around the Encore period, his flow is always on-point. In fact Encore is the only album I heard him stumble a few words but his rhythm and timing is always perfect.

It's more about the clarity though, the way he emphasizes every syllable, the way it's been written, the schemes, the toying with the listener. These are all things Ca$his and others do not have. Also, that song is just childs play for Em. At that point, people were so used to him, you're used to it, you know what to expect from him and you expect more.

But in comparison to what other rappers do it's still another level up. Majority of rappers don't even contemplate toying with the ideas he does on that let alone carry them out. And Ca$his' lyricism is just lame in general. It's generic, it's not electrifying, it's not original. It's nothing. I could do better myself.

I agree with everything you just said. That is not the point though man. I'm saying, how can you see a rapper's skill from one song? Or even a few songs. And lyricist are the only types of rappers I like, so don't say I don't care for it. Remember I do not like Cashis, like I've said twn times already, but you keep implying that I'm trying to defend him.

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

you motherfuckers write way too fucking much
people are not going to read that whole shit (i did)

lol. Me and EminemBase are kind of just talking to each other. This is an A and B conversation so C yourself out of it before D and E come and F you up.

G, that was a clever response. H is offering its congratulations. Ha ha, JK! Smoke an L and listen to some M.

[EminemBase]

You actually did say I thought it was a good song at first despite me not saying it.

Yes I can absolutely see talent in "Big Weenie" and I think anybody who can't or is just approaching this comment even as I write, with a black / white view of OH THAT'S JUST POINTLESS STUPID SHIT MAN AHAAH obviously doesn't appreciate lyricism.

Like the truth syrum bit. Ca$his isn't even close to as creative as that. Em's worst shits on Ca$his' best in so many aspects.

And Em's flow is absolutely on-point. He never goes off-flow. Even when his lyricism is sub-par or depressive, around the Encore period, his flow is always on-point. In fact Encore is the only album I heard him stumble a few words but his rhythm and timing is always perfect.

It's more about the clarity though, the way he emphasizes every syllable, the way it's been written, the schemes, the toying with the listener. These are all things Ca$his and others do not have. Also, that song is just childs play for Em. At that point, people were so used to him, you're used to it, you know what to expect from him and you expect more.

But in comparison to what other rappers do it's still another level up. Majority of rappers don't even contemplate toying with the ideas he does on that let alone carry them out. And Ca$his' lyricism is just lame in general. It's generic, it's not electrifying, it's not original. It's nothing. I could do better myself.

I agree with everything you just said. That is not the point though man. I'm saying, how can you see a rapper's skill from one song? Or even a few songs. And lyricist are the only types of rappers I like, so don't say I don't care for it. Remember I do not like Cashis, like I've said twn times already, but you keep implying that I'm trying to defend him.

You ARE trying to defend him. You keep asking me why I think his lyricism is trash and why his flow is off etc. I've explained why, we're going in circles.

And you don't get what I mean. You can't tell the whole scope of an artist from one song... Well, unless they are lame like Ca$his and 50 and then it turns out there really isn't much more to them.

But point is, you can hear IF they are skillful. You can hear how much they've mastered the craft at the fundamentals immediatley. I don't need to 'work' Soulja Boy into my system to get an opinion, I can tell from fucking his stupid few songs immediately that he is an awful rhymer and has just spent no real time mastering his art. His flow is lazy, all over the place etc.

Now Ca$his isn't as bad as him obviously but again, I can hear immediately the guy is just not that good at what he does. Either he hasn't put the time in or unfortunately he's not naturally good at it. His rhyming his poor, his lines are poor, his wit is not there, there's nothing appealing there. From the get-go. Everything about his writing from every angle is clumsy and lazy.

Again, I didn't need to hear the entire MMLP to tell Em was a good rapper. You can tell from one song of course you can. You can't sum up an artist for life but you can hear how skilfull they are. Just like I heard it immediately with Nas and Mos Def. Their flows are tailored and tight etc.

[KaRtLiDgE]

You actually did say I thought it was a good song at first despite me not saying it.

Yes I can absolutely see talent in "Big Weenie" and I think anybody who can't or is just approaching this comment even as I write, with a black / white view of OH THAT'S JUST POINTLESS STUPID SHIT MAN AHAAH obviously doesn't appreciate lyricism.

Like the truth syrum bit. Ca$his isn't even close to as creative as that. Em's worst shits on Ca$his' best in so many aspects.

And Em's flow is absolutely on-point. He never goes off-flow. Even when his lyricism is sub-par or depressive, around the Encore period, his flow is always on-point. In fact Encore is the only album I heard him stumble a few words but his rhythm and timing is always perfect.

It's more about the clarity though, the way he emphasizes every syllable, the way it's been written, the schemes, the toying with the listener. These are all things Ca$his and others do not have. Also, that song is just childs play for Em. At that point, people were so used to him, you're used to it, you know what to expect from him and you expect more.

But in comparison to what other rappers do it's still another level up. Majority of rappers don't even contemplate toying with the ideas he does on that let alone carry them out. And Ca$his' lyricism is just lame in general. It's generic, it's not electrifying, it's not original. It's nothing. I could do better myself.

I agree with everything you just said. That is not the point though man. I'm saying, how can you see a rapper's skill from one song? Or even a few songs. And lyricist are the only types of rappers I like, so don't say I don't care for it. Remember I do not like Cashis, like I've said twn times already, but you keep implying that I'm trying to defend him.

You ARE trying to defend him. You keep asking me why I think his lyricism is trash and why his flow is off etc. I've explained why, we're going in circles.

And you don't get what I mean. You can't tell the whole scope of an artist from one song... Well, unless they are lame like Ca$his and 50 and then it turns out there really isn't much more to them.

But point is, you can hear IF they are skillful. You can hear how much they've mastered the craft at the fundamentals immediatley. I don't need to 'work' Soulja Boy into my system to get an opinion, I can tell from fucking his stupid few songs immediately that he is an awful rhymer and has just spent no real time mastering his art. His flow is lazy, all over the place etc.

Now Ca$his isn't as bad as him obviously but again, I can hear immediately the guy is just not that good at what he does. Either he hasn't put the time in or unfortunately he's not naturally good at it. His rhyming his poor, his lines are poor, his wit is not there, there's nothing appealing there. From the get-go. Everything about his writing from every angle is clumsy and lazy.

Again, I didn't need to hear the entire MMLP to tell Em was a good rapper. You can tell from one song of course you can. You can't sum up an artist for life but you can hear how skilfull they are. Just like I heard it immediately with Nas and Mos Def. Their flows are tailored and tight etc.

I never asked why he is trash or why he off flow. I knew you were going to try and say that. I KNOW HE SUCKS. I never said anything like that. Arguing with you is like bashing my head against a brick wall. You just type 6 paragraphs and never answer the question. Yea of course you can see skill in a song or no skill in a song. But you said you can determine if the rapper is good or not from 1 song. Which you are wrong. If you were to listen to the new Slick Rick freestyle over the "I Wanna Rock" track by Snoop, you would have a very definitive opinion on the song. I wanna hear it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_HOWJOFQA

Use your super powers of telling how good an artist is off of one song on that link.

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

Cartlidge, that's a damned good freestyle.

[EminemBase]

I never asked why he is trash or why he off flow. I knew you were going to try and say that. I KNOW HE SUCKS. I never said anything like that. Arguing with you is like bashing my head against a brick wall. You just type 6 paragraphs and never answer the question. Yea of course you can see skill in a song or no skill in a song. But you said you can determine if the rapper is good or not from 1 song. Which you are wrong. If you were to listen to the new Slick Rick freestyle over the "I Wanna Rock" track by Snoop, you would have a very definitive opinion on the song. I wanna hear it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_HOWJOFQA

Use your super powers of telling how good an artist is off of one song on that link.

YES YOU FUCKING DID. QUUUUOOOOOOOTEEEEEEE:
You said you could tell from the flow that he has skill? Well then (sinne we were talking about Cashis) Cashis has songs when his flow is perfect. Why does he translate to you as trash?

You see right there, you telling me his flow is perfect and asking me why he translates as trash to me. At leas know YOUR OWN posts before contradicting yourself so stupidly.

This is why arguing with you is like stabbing my penis head repeatedly with a fucking fork.

And yes you can absolutely tell from one song. You're too stupid to get what I'm saying. I've explained it over and over and you're still not getting it. It doesn't matter if the rapper in question is having a good day or bad day on the song. You can hear FUNDA-FUCKING-MENTALLY if they have skills.

I can listen to Nas' worst song of his career and still immediately tell that he's a student of hip-hop. Still immediately tell that his rhymes are tight, that his flow is sharp, that he knows what he's doing. You're telling me you couldn't tell from "The Way I Am" Eminem was good? or from "Crank That" that Soulja Boy was trash? If you couldn't I feel sorry for you and your taste.

Doesn't matter if it's Em's or Nas' or Mos' worst song lyrically, if they're totally off because they're so skilled at what they do you can hear it anyway. Just like Tyson - Even when he lost fights you were still mezmorized by his skillset. He still LOOKED the better boxer. You could still understand why this man ruled the boxing World. Where as bum boxers, even when they won, you were surprised they won.

This is why with people like Ca$his or 50 people say "You'll be surprised" because their default position is bumville. You don't expect quality from them. They don't portray quality, if they did people wouldn't say this. I think you're confusing deciding whether they have skills with forming a full opinion on them.

As I'll say for the third time now, I'm not talking about your opinion never being changed but you CAN tell immediately whether or not they have skills. And in Ca$his' case, he doesn't. Not to me. And I don't need to hear 50 tracks to tell me that. I could tell from the 1st and it was re-confirmed on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th all the way up to about the 7th and 8th. Sure he could improve but as of now. He's SHIT. And yes I KNOW you don't like him either so you say. Not the point. Point is you can tell immediately.

[X'ed Up]

What happened to this thread?

[ShaBruv]

Lol this is the most intense thread ever, calm down son

[Jumbo]

Yeah.
Let's make a new category for the next TR awards: Most intense thread

[X'ed Up]

Yeah.
Let's make a new category for the next TR awards: Most intense thread

agreed

[KaRtLiDgE]

Yeah.
Let's make a new category for the next TR awards: Most intense thread

agreed

So here is the rundown on this thread.

Eminembase says you can tell the skill of a rapper immediately after hearing him, even one song. I disagree. He says you could tell how great Eminem is from The Way I Am immediately. I say, well how about Big Weenie or Just Loose It? I'm expecting this kid to say something, like "Oh well in certain cases or only some songs" or some shit. This fuckin kid says he could see Eminem's immense talent from Big Weenie. Pulling shit out of his ass like you could see Eminem's perfect flow and great lyricism from Big Weenie or even that from listening to the song, you could tell that he can have better shit and he would immediately search for a more serious song. lol.

This kid is a sick herb who is obsessed with Eminem and has no life. He made a topic about Em's knee surgery might be the cause of his awkward movement while rapping yesterday. That means, that this fuckin loser was sitting at home (aka his mother's basement) and thinking of reasons for Em's awkward movement when performing or just thinking of Em's knee surgery and the effects it may of had on his life.

And don't deny the fact you are a sick loser because I've checked this site at all different times of the day in the last month and you've been on posting away at all of them.

Goodbye and fuck you.








PS. Leave your house it's good for you.