Coleon's Top 10/Big Ass Argument Thread

[Satire]

Jay-Z sucks NOW. Before BP3 he was dope just because he made a wack-ass album doesn't take away from the fact the he made The Blueprint, The Black Album, Reasonable Doubt, Hard Knock Life Volume 2, and American Gangster

BP3=RELAPSE

Relapse hater

Relapse>SSLP>BP3

SSLP>Relapse=BP3

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

But rappers like Chuck D and KRS and them are easily more skilled than 2Pac in my opinion.
I didn't feel the need to say anything though.

And Rx>SSLP

[X'ed Up]

How is it that i always find myself alone in these kind of arguments? Can't someone come back me up for once? GGGG, you said Relapse>SSLP

Help me here.

EDIT; thanks

[Jaz]

Just because something is dubbed legendary by the general population doesn't mean it has to be considered great. They aren't that good. Beef and death made them far too popular imo. And Satire I'm not saying they weren't huge before that, but it certainly wasn't even close to the props they were given after death.

The fact is, AVERAGE rappers today are just as good as they were. Whether they spit bitch shit or not. If you want to say okay well their subject matter was more aggressive and gangsta.. There's plenty of rappers today that still spit hardcore shit, and are better.

Also, am I the only one who doesn't like KRS's music?

[Xray]

^Nas and Jay-Z are considered legendary along with Pac and BIG

I wouldn't call any of the 4 of them legendary. If I had to pick one to be so I'd say Nas, but idk about that. Even Biggie said he thought RA the rugged man was better than he was, and most people say Big is better than Pac.. but RA isn't considered legendary by most people for some reason. Doesn't make sense.

Lol what? You make no sense.

DMX
Prodigy
Nas
Jay-Z
(if not now, then soon to be) Eminem
MOP
Onyx
Wu Tang etc.

They're all legendary status, I don't know where the hell you been hiding all these years, but its a fact that those rappers are legendary. Just because you don't think so, or know so, doesn't make you right, cause its a shared fact amongst many and that's a big ass number of many. You a fan of Budden? His got a video where he sees MOP and just can't believe it his in the same room as them. That's what you call legendary status lol. Your favourite rappers favourite rapper.

[Satire]

Just because something is dubbed legendary by the general population doesn't mean it has to be considered great. They aren't that good. Beef and death made them far too popular imo. And Satire I'm not saying they weren't huge before that, but it certainly wasn't even close to the props they were given after death.

The fact is, AVERAGE rappers today are just as good as they were. Whether they spit bitch shit or not. If you want to say okay well their subject matter was more aggressive and gangsta.. There's plenty of rappers today that still spit hardcore shit, and are better.

Also, am I the only one who doesn't like KRS's music?

I know, and I'm not saying they're top 20 material or even great (Look back like 2 pages to see me arguing against it), but I give still give credit to them for being legendary.

Also:

you're 12 X'ed Up, I'm sure Relapse was the shit for you X'ed Up

GGGG is just the guy to love the subject matter.

I, and these people, are not.

This.

[X'ed Up]

Onyx? lmfao

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you're 12 X'ed Up, I'm sure Relapse was the shit for you X'ed Up

GGGG is just the guy to love the subject matter.

I, and these people, are not.

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[LilWayne4Life]

7 pages over this dudes WACK top 10?

[Jaz]

Ok Wu-Tang I could call legendary I didn't know we were getting into group shit.. individually I wouldn't call any of them legendary. DMX? Onyx? How are these dudes legendary? That entire list is a lie. Lmao.

(Disclaimer: Not saying these people are bad rappers)

The fact is, the word legendary is useless in this conversation, because to me that's the same as saying top 10's should simply be based on what's hot, and anyone who has a list based on what's hot should lose their ability to hear music.

[Verses]

Isn't legendary more to do with the impact they have as opposed to the actual skill they possess?

[X'ed Up]

Coleon=Satire. Same fucking opinions

[KillahBee]

You know what I hate about about these top 10 lists? Some fuck ALWAYS has to bring up 2pac! "No 2pac = no rap" thats the most ignorant comment Ive ever read on on here. Hip hop was here before 2pac, and it sure as hell stayed here after he died.

Why not bring up Rakim, Chuck D, Big Daddy Kane KRS One, etc, the true Godfathers of hiphop, I haven't seen 1 of those mentioned on anybody's list, and each 1 of them shit on Pac in every aspect of rapping, but nobody complains about those dudes being excluded, it's always "wheres 2pac?".

And Im not a Pac hater, I like the guys music, and he is a legend, but Jesus Christ anytime I see somebody posting a top 10 without 2pac, someone always has to comment.

Read my sig

Stop fucking bitching it's my fucking opinion you retard. The guys a legend like it or not and I have the right to be surprised when people don't put in what my opinion is the best rapper of all time. And Hip-Hop wasn't as popular as it was until Pac came. Thos rappers you mentioned are the Godfathers of Rap along Pac and Biggie. And yes you are a Pac hater

Me a retard? Says a guy who complains about his idol not being mentioned in everybodies top 10? Exactly it's a fucking opinion, and in my opinion, and by the looks of things most people's opinion, Pac aint top 10 material, simple as. Your the one bitching here, Im pointing out the fact that you can't exclude Pac from your top 10 without somebody commenting. As you said, its an opinion, so respect other people's opinions. Not many people are interested in that "Thug Life" shit these days.

[Jaz]

Isn't legendary more to do with the impact they have as opposed to the actual skill they possess?

Exactly, and that is mostly based on popularity. Obviously you need to have a motivating factor in your music to do that, but it is still based on popularity. Just like Lil Wayne being the "best rapper alive".. That's solely based on popularity that people think he deserves that title.

[Xray]

Onyx? lmfao

You shitting me? You don't think Onyx is legendary? Name one group out now or came out in the last 10 if not 5 years that can spit that aggressive and raw as that. Fuck that, imo nearly every memorable rapper from the 90's is legendary status. Simply cause they tore it up the fuck out.

Ok Wu-Tang I could call legendary I didn't know we were getting into group shit.. individually I wouldn't call any of them legendary. DMX? Onyx? How are these dudes legendary? That entire list is a lie. Lmao.

Lie? Man you're fucked up. I have no clue which cave you crawled out of buddy, but you need mad updating. Step your game up homie. You seem lost as fuck.

[Satire]

Coleon=Satire. Same fucking opinions

Me & Cole don't listen to any of the same type of music and I disagree with alot of shit he says, I'll tell you that right now. We just agree Relapse was underwhelming and Pac isn't in our top 10.