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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby Chilli » May 3rd, '10, 11:34

GoodGirlsGetGutted wrote:He teased them when he was either on drugs or too young to know better.
He's a grown man, and he's perfectly aware of what he's doing.
He used to not give a fuck as a pessimist.
Now he doesn't give a fuck as an optimist.


Maturity may explain why he stopped teasing them openly. It doesn't explain accepting, respecting, liking then incorporating corny lyrics into his music.

But whatever, I accept he may have changed. I just don't like the change.

Alaine wrote:serious? he's been doing the sing-s-long kind of chorus since TES. How can people not appreciate a quality song like this when they just got that gimmicky garbage WMY last year I never understand.


That logic makes no sense. I liked the choruses in The Eminem Show so I have to like the chorus of this? I've got nothing against him singing, but I do have something against him singing melodies I deem to be annoying and lyrics I deem to be cheesy.

I appreciate people may like this song and I can see why they would. But I don't. That is all.

For the record, I didn't like We Made You either.
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby Alaine » May 3rd, '10, 11:36

my bad, I thought you said WMY is better, I swear I read somewhere on this board about that, maybe it's someone else. It's all good then =)
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby Tranquil » May 3rd, '10, 11:37

Chilli wrote:
GoodGirlsGetGutted wrote:He teased them when he was either on drugs or too young to know better.
He's a grown man, and he's perfectly aware of what he's doing.
He used to not give a fuck as a pessimist.
Now he doesn't give a fuck as an optimist.


Maturity may explain why he stopped teasing them openly. It doesn't explain accepting, respecting, liking then incorporating corny lyrics into his music.

But whatever, I accept he may have changed. I just don't like the change.

Alaine wrote:serious? he's been doing the sing-s-long kind of chorus since TES. How can people not appreciate a quality song like this when they just got that gimmicky garbage WMY last year I never understand.


That logic makes no sense. I liked the choruses in The Eminem Show so I have to like the chorus of this? I've got nothing against him singing, but I do have something against him singing melodies I deem to be annoying and lyrics I deem to be cheesy.

I appreciate people may like this song and I can see why they would. But I don't. That is all.

For the record, I didn't like We Made You either.

fuck u then :angry:
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby Chilli » May 3rd, '10, 11:42

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Chilli wrote:
GoodGirlsGetGutted wrote:He teased them when he was either on drugs or too young to know better.
He's a grown man, and he's perfectly aware of what he's doing.
He used to not give a fuck as a pessimist.
Now he doesn't give a fuck as an optimist.


Maturity may explain why he stopped teasing them openly. It doesn't explain accepting, respecting, liking then incorporating corny lyrics into his music.

But whatever, I accept he may have changed. I just don't like the change.

Alaine wrote:serious? he's been doing the sing-s-long kind of chorus since TES. How can people not appreciate a quality song like this when they just got that gimmicky garbage WMY last year I never understand.


That logic makes no sense. I liked the choruses in The Eminem Show so I have to like the chorus of this? I've got nothing against him singing, but I do have something against him singing melodies I deem to be annoying and lyrics I deem to be cheesy.

I appreciate people may like this song and I can see why they would. But I don't. That is all.

For the record, I didn't like We Made You either.

fuck u then :angry:


I like you :)

Can we be friends? :flower:
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby clustr » May 3rd, '10, 12:19

@JustBlaze http://twitter.com/JustBlaze/status/10377132608, you meant "Not Afraid" with that tweet then?

@clustr not at all about 1 hour ago via Twittelator in reply to clustr

ok seems like i was wrong ;)

but when he says "not at all" it seems like... i don't know... feels like he doesn't like Not Afraid a 100% by saying "not at all"
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby MikeNUFC » May 3rd, '10, 12:22

This thread has actually pissed me off. I read a few posts early on and some of you lot are just incredibly hypocritical.

One person says they dislike the song and you get people saying "how can you not like this?", "stop moaning" "take what you get" and all that crap. Funnily enough, some of these people are the same ones who went on and on about how much they hated Relapse all fuckin' last year. Did I jump on every anti-Relapse comment saying "how can you not like this?", "stop moaning" "take what you get"?

No, I fuckin' didn't becuase I'm not gunna change your view on it and I understand if you dont like it. Yet all you hypocrits jump on every single comment that even slightly criticises Not Afriad. Really does my head in.

On topic - I think it was probably the last track made. Jim Jonsin said he had the lead single, then a couple of days later boi-1da tweeted saying Em had just murdered his beat. So I assume that was NA.
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby Tranquil » May 3rd, '10, 12:59

I like you :)

Can we be friends? :flower:

because you from australia, yes we can :p
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby Alaine » May 3rd, '10, 13:35

^ I must say that this is kind of song that grow on you actually (for me at least), I like it better now cuz I'm used to the bridge. It's not like people saying it has no flaw or a masterpiece, but it's good music and enjoyable to listen to.
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby Gorila » May 3rd, '10, 13:39

I seriously really don't know whats wrong with Em fans, first they get We Made You which was a horrible song, then they get this one, and they still think its too poppy and corny, well what makes all his other singles not poppy and corny :facepalm2 Like that Amadeo guy, he thinks his speaking for everyone by saying he hopes Recovery doesn't contain material like Not Afraid and thinks everyone hates it but in reality the majority see this song as a huge step for Em. This song right here is a major improvement over his other celeb-bashing singles.
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby Alaine » May 3rd, '10, 13:44

Amadeo wrote:^ then why can't you be content with negative opinions? why do you have to justify people's dislike by assuming they just don't like soft Eminem or want him to go hard?

I have no problem, I totally understand that you feel the song is overrated.
The only thing annoys me about the 'negative' opinion is some people hate on this because they want Shady back or think this is corny but like We Made You.
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby ShaBruv » May 3rd, '10, 14:00

I think people have gotta realise he wont be able to make another Lose Yourself so you should just take the song as it is: an inspirational ballad that is a breath of fresh air from such first singles as Just Lose It and We Made You, (songs that have had constant hate but when Em breaks the formula and does what the fans want, they ain't happy) He can't win.
I know you want to retaliate but you won't dare,
Cause you fuckin with some ****** like this who just don't care.

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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby MikeNUFC » May 3rd, '10, 14:00

Gorila wrote: Like that Amadeo guy, he thinks his speaking for everyone by saying he hopes Recovery doesn't contain material like Not Afraids.

So, how about everyone who jumps on anyone who talks down about NA becuase of their opinion and tells them to "enjoy what you get" blah blah blah yet their the same ones who didnt stop yapping on about how they hated Relapse.
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby Mikey1990 » May 3rd, '10, 14:05

not afraid is in my top 20 em songs of all time
lyrically nothin special
but the 3rd verse :worship:
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby MikeNUFC » May 3rd, '10, 14:08

ShadyBruvaz wrote:I think people have gotta realise he wont be able to make another Lose Yourself so you should just take the song as it is: an inspirational ballad that is a breath of fresh air from such first singles as Just Lose It and We Made You, (songs that have had constant hate but when Em breaks the formula and does what the fans want, they ain't happy) He can't win.

He can win. HE doesnt dumb down his lyrics and makes a non-poppy single. It's not that fucking hard for him. I'm not expecting another lose yourself, I'm expecting something that isnt corny and doesnt have some of the worst metaphors ever.

Dont give me that "You moaned about Just Lose It so be happy with this" crap. Just cus I moaned about a previous song, doesnt mean I have to like another one.

And yes, I'd rather listen to WMY than Not Afraid. Hate me for having an opinion.
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Re: For the people who say Not Afraid is an old song...

Postby ShaBruv » May 3rd, '10, 14:25

MikeNufc wrote:
ShadyBruvaz wrote:I think people have gotta realise he wont be able to make another Lose Yourself so you should just take the song as it is: an inspirational ballad that is a breath of fresh air from such first singles as Just Lose It and We Made You, (songs that have had constant hate but when Em breaks the formula and does what the fans want, they ain't happy) He can't win.

He can win. HE doesnt dumb down his lyrics and makes a non-poppy single. It's not that fucking hard for him. I'm not expecting another lose yourself, I'm expecting something that isnt corny and doesnt have some of the worst metaphors ever.

Dont give me that "You moaned about Just Lose It so be happy with this" crap. Just cus I moaned about a previous song, doesnt mean I have to like another one.

And yes, I'd rather listen to WMY than Not Afraid. Hate me for having an opinion.


I aint gonna hate on you for having an opinion, thats just fucking dumb

actually after i've just relistened to Not Afraid ,broken down the lyrics and compared it to other tracks, i hate to say it but i have no way to defend myself of the argument. Fair play Mike. :y:

I think i just let my stan side come out when this song came out and was oblivious to the actual lyrics.
But i wouldn't say it's a bad song as i dont think there is any arguing with the 3rd verse
I know you want to retaliate but you won't dare,
Cause you fuckin with some ****** like this who just don't care.

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