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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby Mxracer6y » Jun 11th, '10, 07:30

darklord981 wrote:Recovery > Marshall Mathers LP



you = high on drugs :wave:
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby Mxracer6y » Jun 11th, '10, 07:30

AliJack wrote:
Drucifer wrote:I've noticed that alot of people who liked Relapse are the ones being hardest on this, and the ones who like this were the ones who shitted on Relapse

I hate both Sherlock!!!!!!!!!


you = gay :wave:
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby Fleka » Jun 11th, '10, 08:49

Satans_Chef wrote:Dude. Not a Slim Shady Album
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He is FUCKEN 37 years old.

some people will never understand...

Relapse was Slim Shady album, and everybody is bitchin` "we want Eminem songs...bla, bla". And when you get Eminem album, it sucks cuz he is to commercial, and corny and shit. MAKE UP YOUR GOD DAMN MIND WHAT YOU WANT HIM TO BE!
Recovery is great.
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby AliJack » Jun 11th, '10, 09:57

Mxracer6y wrote:
AliJack wrote:
Drucifer wrote:I've noticed that alot of people who liked Relapse are the ones being hardest on this, and the ones who like this were the ones who shitted on Relapse

I hate both Sherlock!!!!!!!!!


you = gay :wave:

^ Scared to hit it raw!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby ohimesama » Jun 11th, '10, 13:52

ChronicJon wrote:C'mon man seriously :facepalm

New Em>Old Em. Recovery>MMLP.

I mothafucking said it


I thought this but was scared to say it :o
thats so true...
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby MikeNUFC » Jun 11th, '10, 13:54

ChronicJon wrote:C'mon man seriously :facepalm

New Em>Old Em. Recovery>MMLP.

I mothafucking said it

You keep saying "Yeah I said it" as if you're desperate to be different.
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby 4D » Jun 11th, '10, 15:06

da r star wrote:Yes, I do understand that he is not the same guy he was 8 years ago. But seriously, songs about "I girls I love you, when you're not around I feel weird" type of shit? Come on!

I think that, most of y'all are in your teenage years like around 15, or either discovered eminem 5 years ago. Because If you grew up on MMLP and TES like I did (i'm 22 now) you would pretty much feel like I do.

And bitches, it is a good album, it's just 4 or 5 cuts that I just can't believe he made them!


Actually I like that he has made a few songs towards women that don't end up in them being abused or killed. I love Kim and Stay Wide Awake, but an artist should have a lot of colours on their palette. You must not remember "Searchin'" from Infinite? It's cornier than all of the songs on "Recovery", but it's lyrically brilliant, so it's one of my faves. I think the best thing EMinem has that I appreciate is the skill. Yes, he has the crazy Shady rhymes, the dark concept rhymes from MMLP, the uplifting songs like Lose YOurself and Sing For The Moment. But most tracks are basically random witty lyrical rhymes layed perfectly to a beat. No one can flow to a beat like Eminem, imo, that's his biggest gift. The content has always been questionable and sporadically good or bad. But the skill is what keeps the fans tagging along, and what keeps him at the top of the game.
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby freaksworld » Jun 11th, '10, 15:51

4D wrote:Actually I like that he has made a few songs towards women that don't end up in them being abused or killed. I love Kim and Stay Wide Awake, but an artist should have a lot of colours on their palette. You must not remember "Searchin'" from Infinite? It's cornier than all of the songs on "Recovery", but it's lyrically brilliant, so it's one of my faves. I think the best thing EMinem has that I appreciate is the skill. Yes, he has the crazy Shady rhymes, the dark concept rhymes from MMLP, the uplifting songs like Lose YOurself and Sing For The Moment. But most tracks are basically random witty lyrical rhymes layed perfectly to a beat. No one can flow to a beat like Eminem, imo, that's his biggest gift. The content has always been questionable and sporadically good or bad. But the skill is what keeps the fans tagging along, and what keeps him at the top of the game.


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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby KillahBee » Jun 11th, '10, 16:24

Problems with SSLP:
Nasal delivery, too juvenille, production aged badly

Problems with MMLP:
Too controversial, too agressive, production too stripped down

Problems with TES:
He went commercial, not juvenille or controversial enough, too much whining, Em produces most of it

Problems with Encore:
It was released

Problems with Relapse:
Accent, serial killer subject matter became boring, uninspired Dre beats, too juvenille

Problems with Recovery:
Aggresive delivery, personal subject matter & concepts are boring, uninspired production/not enough Dre beats, singing on hooks

The fact is no matter what Em does, he is critisised for it, Em changed on EVERY single album, compare MMLP to TES, two totally different albums, compare Relapse to Encore, its not like Em suddenly became different - he always switched it up, he just gets shitted on for doing it whereas others don't
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby KillahBee » Jun 11th, '10, 16:39

Menzo wrote:There is nothing wrong with Em being too aggressive or controversial on MMLP :flutter: But you're right, people ALWAYS pull shit out of their fuckin assholes.

No man I agree, I love that album, Im just pointing out the negotive things people say about each album, some are too controversial, others aren't etc
People ALWAYS find something to complain about when it comes to Em
Same sword they knight you they gon' good night you with
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That ain't even the half what they might do
Don't believe me, ask Michael
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Suicide, it's a suicide
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby Fleka » Jun 11th, '10, 16:48

KillahBee wrote:Problems with SSLP:
Nasal delivery, too juvenille, production aged badly

Problems with MMLP:
Too controversial, too agressive, production too stripped down

Problems with TES:
He went commercial, not juvenille or controversial enough, too much whining, Em produces most of it

Problems with Encore:
It was released

Problems with Relapse:
Accent, serial killer subject matter became boring, uninspired Dre beats, too juvenille

Problems with Recovery:
Aggresive delivery, personal subject matter & concepts are boring, uninspired production/not enough Dre beats, singing on hooks

The fact is no matter what Em does, he is critisised for it, Em changed on EVERY single album, compare MMLP to TES, two totally different albums, compare Relapse to Encore, its not like Em suddenly became different - he always switched it up, he just gets shitted on for doing it whereas others don't


yeah, what ever he does-it`s not good. maybe he should just quit. wait, he did. that was not good too.
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby proe91 » Jun 11th, '10, 17:20

KillahBee wrote:Problems with Encore:
It was released


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I still think it was an ok album
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby slimsoxshady » Jun 11th, '10, 18:41

Recovery is more Slim Shady than Relapse
tracks like Cold Wind Blows, On Fire, So Bad, Almost Famous, Untitled are vintage Shady
Relapse was some different alias to me cuz Slim Shady was never that serial killer 3am BS
Not saying I don't like Relapse, just saying the real Slim Shady wasn't that
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby UofLCard » Jun 11th, '10, 19:06

da r star wrote:I think that, most of y'all are in your teenage years like around 15, or either discovered eminem 5 years ago. Because If you grew up on MMLP and TES like I did (i'm 22 now) you would pretty much feel like I do.


I'm 20 years old and have been listening to Eminem for 7-8 years. Thanks for playing.
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Re: R.I.P. The Eminem I used to know 2000-2010

Postby 4D » Jun 11th, '10, 21:34

KillahBee wrote:Problems with SSLP:
Nasal delivery, too juvenille, production aged badly

Problems with MMLP:
Too controversial, too agressive, production too stripped down

Problems with TES:
He went commercial, not juvenille or controversial enough, too much whining, Em produces most of it

Problems with Encore:
It was released

Problems with Relapse:
Accent, serial killer subject matter became boring, uninspired Dre beats, too juvenille

Problems with Recovery:
Aggresive delivery, personal subject matter & concepts are boring, uninspired production/not enough Dre beats, singing on hooks

The fact is no matter what Em does, he is critisised for it, Em changed on EVERY single album, compare MMLP to TES, two totally different albums, compare Relapse to Encore, its not like Em suddenly became different - he always switched it up, he just gets shitted on for doing it whereas others don't


Well said, you made a good point. The only album that deserved the criticism was Encore, as it was a huge step down in standards of skill and lyricism (Besides maybe 1 or 2 tracks). Which makes it lesser albums than the rest. I've enjoyed Relapse and Recovery much more than Encore, because of that. But the great song concepts from SSLP, MMLP and TES mean they are still his crowning achievements.
The great thing about these last two albums, is that he has proven he hasn't lost the flow or the lyricism. I still miss the dark twisted song concepts though, can he bring them back?
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