Are you happy with Obama?

[97Civic]

Are you happy with the work that Obama has done since he has taken office?

Me personally some things I like and some things I don't like..

I liked the Stimulus bill. It stimulated the economy back it's feet and atleast they didn't do anymore of that stupid Bailout shit.

I HATED the healthcare bill. Pesonally I Obama bowed down to the Republicans by introducing the final plan which was different than what he promised. The health care bill he passed was almost an exact copy of what Mitt Romney (a REPUBLICAN) came up with and wrote a book about.

I like the way he has dealt with relations with Iran. Not provoking them anymore than there already provoked.

I like the way he has handled the war. A slow withdraw from Iraq was a great decision, and actually fighting the Taliban rather than pussying out like we did in Vietnam.

I HATED the way he dealt with the Oil spill. Seriously he let that BP turn this thing into a Fiasco and then had the nerve to try and divert the attention to a fucking Cap and Trade bill? Cap and Trade is the worst thing that could happen to America. Seriously. But his responce to this thing was horrible and IMO Bush was better during Katrina. And thats BAD...

I really dislike this Bank Bill he has on the way..Don't know much about it, but I don't like the idea of the goverment having anymore control over our money than they already do with that stupid ass IRS shit.

Overall I give him a 5/10... But thank god McCain isn't president..Good lord we would be in some shit

In 2012, unless the Republicans bring someone better than who they already have as candidates I will vote for Obama, again.

Personally I think the Repubs need to captilize on that Tea Party movement they got going on. Bring in someone idealistic and smart and young. Then I might give em thought.

ur thoughts?

[Noeezy]

Pretty much got sick of him bowing down to leaders of other countries on inappropriate occasions.
And when it was brought up the White House tried to claim that he didn't, when theres pictures and video footage

Bailouts were a complete failure. Ford was the only auto company that didnt take money, they made adjustments, hired and fired who they had to, just like any business SHOULD do, and they have now claimed that they are in the green for a good amount of time now [1]

Didn't like his ideas on healthcare,
at him wanting to have combat soldiers pay out of their pocket for medical care- glad that didn't get passed [2]
and yet we're still giving FREE healthcare to illegal immigrants
[Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1986]

He told AZ Senator Jon Kyl that we couldn't enforce the border more tightly because they wouldn't have a reason for immigration reform [3]

One of the things that annoyed me the most was when I was in school people would basically say "but hes black, dont you want a black president?" I'm blind to color so I don't care if hes black, white, or purple. All I care about is if he can do the job and perform up to the standards he set himself up for.
And I think i'd of rather went with Mccain.

I know i'll probly get hate here cause I'm republican but if more people did research you guys would be too. Lookup the Community Reinvestment Act and see how democrats pretty much forced banks to give out an additional $1 trillion in loans to people that couldn't afford houses.
Fannie Mae made money off of mortgages from the government, so to make more money off of it, they started moving down the income ladder. So as people couldn't afford the cost of the loan, they stopped paying, and banks began to stop lending, foreclosures started piling up, and banks eventually started claiming bankruptcy or went out of business completely due to government forced securities. And heres the shocker, guess who tried to regulate the housing market before all of this happened? BUSH.
He wanted to create a new agency within the treasury department to supervise Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which are the largest mortgage lenders. And I quote Barney Frank(D) "the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." Other democrats said the same thing, they stopped what Bush tried to start, and the prices of homes skyrocketed.
Again in 2005, another man that people seem to hate, John Mccain, co-sponsored the "Housing Enterprise Regulatory Act of 2005" which also tried to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but yet, democrats blocked it again. Btw, Obama has received four times more money from Fannie Mae a year than ANY other senator from the last 20 years, 49x more than Mccain(42k to 862)
Obama also worked at a law firm that sued banks for not issuing enough subprime loans (lookup Calvin Roberson) So give another thought to who really caused the crisis. While Obama and his friends got richer, millions of americans lost their homes, cars, and even jobs just because the government made them believe they could afford it. See how he talks about "Failed economic policies" and ridicules Mccain for actually trying to fix the problems we face. Although it would be nice if it did, 'Hope' does not magically fix everything by itself. And the only 'change' most people see in America is the leftover money from paying bills to use for food.

[mrjizzbomber]

I'm not very informed on politics, but I've come to a basic understanding that it doesn't really matter who is in there - the same shit happens either way.

Don't understand how Obama can be tied to the oil spill in a negative way. Its not like hes had the solution in his back pocket this whole time.

[AbramIsaac]

Pretty much got sick of him bowing down to leaders of other countries on inappropriate occasions.

I thought that was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard of when people were making a big deal out of that. It's not a sign of weakness, it's a sign of respect--and in other cultures, it's not a submission-type of deal like it would be perceived here. Beyond that, other presidents, republican and democrat have done the same. Just my take.

Obama has done great on some things, bad on others. He tries to be bipartisan, when it's obviously hurting him more than helping him. Fuck the republican dogs, he should've passed Universal Healthcare before Ted Kennedy died. Instead, they dicked around and passed a plan that doesn't change nearly enough of the rules for insurance companies.

Drug reform has been promising. The crack/powder cocaine sentencing disparity was finally taken revoked--which was an absolute disgusting way to target the lower class. 5 grams of crack cocaine (which is part baking soda anyway) carrying a sentence equatable to 500 grams of pure powder cocaine? Ridiculous. That, along with the ban on needle exchange programs in DC being revoked, and the medical marijuana law finally being allowed were great things achieved by the president, and congress.

The Patriot Act continuation and expansion, coupled with the handling of this war in Afghanistan--which will last for at least another 10 years under the current strategy, if done correctly--are very disheartening, in my eyes.

The handling of the economic collapse was...I'm not going to comment on it, as it's not something I've studied enough to know about. I'm not particularly pleased, but I do believe that it would've been worse with McCain for sure.

As far as the Tea Party movement, and the Republicans capitalizing off of it, I sincerely hope they don't get some fucking crackpot under the GOP bill, which is exactly what the Tea Party has been churning out. It's full of Glen Beck fans, who believe that Obama is the AntiChrist/Foreign Born/Leader of the NWO/Communist. No, he's a politician. The hope they put in their radical candidates is just as misplaced as liberals hoping for Obama to be their savior.

Obama should've denounced that whole ACORN scandal, and I'm referring to the loss of it's federal funding and eventual demise. The "evidence" that was brought against them was a fucking farce, and they were later proven innocent of any wrong-doing. The fact is, many of the workers called the police, none of them actually helped the "pimp", and any evidence in the videos to the contrary were clearly in jest, because it looked like a prank.

Obama is fucked, either way though. He was voted in by an enthusiastic base that has been nothing but disappointed in him, even though he has been the most liberal president in a long time. His only hope is if Palin runs under the Tea Party, against the GOP and the Democrats, splitting the Conservative vote, and ushering in a victory for the democrats.

The fact is this--it would've been worse under another 4 years of GOP leadership, and the progress that has been done most certainly wouldn't have. The only possible way I would've been happy with the GOP is if Ron Paul perhaps got the coverage he deserved. Fox News shunned him though, and he was left behind people that had less support than him.

In any case, I'm not happy with the Democrats, and I'm not happy with the GOP. They're both dogs, for the most part. A third party is needed, but it certainly shouldn't be the Tea Party movement, as it's too rooted in racism and ultra-conservative pipe dreams. Canada is where it's at, my friends.

This will probably be the most typing I do in this thread. As some of you may have noticed, I haven't been on recently due to obligations in real life. Carry on, but don't expect me to reply, as this is the first time I've been on in about a month or so I believe.

[Emadyville]

Clinton did well, Bush completely fucked up our country, and Obama was put in a position where he was basically set up to fail (as would McCain have been). Obama has done some good things, but overall I'd say the bad have outweighed the good, I'd rate him right around 55-65% for a president.

[mrjizzbomber]

In any case, I'm not happy with the Democrats, and I'm not happy with the GOP. They're both dogs, for the most part. A third party is needed, but it certainly shouldn't be the Tea Party movement, as it's too rooted in racism and ultra-conservative pipe dreams. Canada is where it's at, my friends.

[Noeezy]

Pretty much got sick of him bowing down to leaders of other countries on inappropriate occasions.

I thought that was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard of when people were making a big deal out of that. It's not a sign of weakness, it's a sign of respect--and in other cultures, it's not a submission-type of deal like it would be perceived here. Beyond that, other presidents, republican and democrat have done the same. Just my take.

It would of been different if it was part of the culture where people do that just to show respect, but Saudi Arabia isn't exactly one of those. As the leader of the American people, most people don't want the man who represents us showing signs of weakness to other countries when we're established as a superpower of the world. A handshake alone would have sufficed.

In any case, I'm not happy with the Democrats, and I'm not happy with the GOP. They're both dogs, for the most part.

that's pretty much how I feel now, though I have conservative beliefs I don't exactly agree with everything republicans do either.

[WakeUpShow]

I'm not very informed on politics, but I've come to a basic understanding that it doesn't really matter who is in there - the same shit happens either way.

Don't understand how Obama can be tied to the oil spill in a negative way. Its not like hes had the solution in his back pocket this whole time.

People blame Bush for Katrina, but when the oil spill occured, everyone was quick to say that Obama deserved no blame when he did absolutely nothing and continues to be idle. There is such a double standard.

[Emadyville]

[quote="CoSh"]People blame Bush for Katrinaquote]

I actually blame Bush for 9/11

[Omar Khalid]

I hate him.

[Kez]

Truly couldn't care less

[Mr. Chambers]

yo i don't follow politics much...but he's fucking up from what i see....just the healthcare thing.....then the bp thing......the only goodish thing is our economy is very slowly improving...not much...but very slowly...but the bads outweigh the goods.....so=\

imo......3/10..........but i saw it coming.....

[WakeUpShow]

People blame Bush for Katrinaquote]

I actually blame Bush for 9/11

explain

[M15HKA]

I'm very happy with him as he suits Russia's Foreign Policy.

Even though Bush was the biggest joke at least he had a proper foreign policy. Obama is trying to make everyone happy which in return is fucking him up.

[97Civic]

I'm very happy with him as he suits Russia's Foreign Policy.

Even though Bush was the biggest joke at least he had a proper foreign policy. Obama is trying to make everyone happy which in return is fucking him up.

Lol...

*Russia: scaring the shit out of the Western world since 1917*