Kanye West Isn't Given Enough Credit

[Hiphopdane]

Just because he's rapping it's hip-hop. Plus, his concept and lyrics are hip-hop.

But you wouldn't say that Rage against the machine is hip hop.

[ChronicJon]

Just because he's rapping it's hip-hop. Plus, his concept and lyrics are hip-hop.

But you wouldn't say that Rage against the machine is hip hop.

They do hip hop AND metal. Kanye does hip-hop and he experimented with electropop/synthpop in 808's and heartbreaks. He's not going back to that so he does ONLY hip hop.

[°[~CHR!$~]°]

'specially after VH1 Storytellers i gained mad respect for Kanye..
i mean his live performance is amazing...and his years ahead of the game!
thats all im gonna say...and people cant recognize that yet

[LilWayne4Life]

^ Ol hating ass dickless ni99a

Kanye is in my top 10

[ChronicJon]

Ye Stans are overtaking this thread!!!!

FUCK him, non of his albums are classics.

[classthe_king]

^ Ol hating ass dickless ni99a

Kanye is in my top 10

Your top ten is neither cared about, nor respected by anyone.

[LilWayne4Life]

^ Ol hating ass dickless ni99a

Kanye is in my top 10

Your top ten is neither cared about, nor respected by anyone.

Your opinion is neither cared, nor respected by me.

[classthe_king]

^ Ol hating ass dickless ni99a

Kanye is in my top 10

Your top ten is neither cared about, nor respected by anyone.

Your opinion is neither cared, nor respected by me.

Then my job is done.

[EminemBase]

I agree. Graduation is also my favourite Kanye album.

I do think that all his first three are classics in their own right. For some reason I remember Late Registration material the least though. But when I look back on it, it's top to bottom stellar as well. As for him not being considered one of the greatest in terms of his rapping ability... I think that could change as he gets better. Judging from the preview of some of his next album, he appears to be climbing ever-still on the lyrical scale.

I also consider him a better lyricist (and a great one) in fact than many people's favourite rappers too anyway. I think his rapping is actually very overlooked. Because he puts a lot of emotion into what he says and makes the music itself so powerful but he really did develop and is still developing into a great lyricist. And was always better than people like... 50 Cent. Much better.

What's also impressive is the fact he's now on his 5th album and still doesn't appear to have peaked. Some may say he has already but people say that with everybody at different point. Point is, he's still trying to push boundries and still evidently improving in front of our eyes. I can't wait for Good Ass Job. Also, as you say - Him as an artist. That's what I feel is most impressive about him.

Not nearly enough musicians live up to the title of artist. I think he's one of the few that do and more. He encompasses every element; the visual, concept, theme, music, lyrics... he's a true visionary even if up his own ass to some people. I have bipolar anyway and think he has it. When he goes on this self-appraising rants or does these insane thinks I think what you're witnessing is mania. It's exactly what I do as well. Each idea starts to build on the next and you become self-delusional, start to think your ideas trump everybody else's in the World (literally) and it goes to different degrees, some manic-depressives start to think they're god etc. Kanye clearly exhibits this type of delusional grandiosity and is known for it. But I also think that's what makes him a genius in his art too.

[ChronicJon]

I agree. Graduation is also my favourite Kanye album.

I do think that all his first three are classics in their own right. For some reason I remember Late Registration material the least though. But when I look back on it, it's top to bottom stellar as well. As for him not being considered one of the greatest in terms of his rapping ability... I think that could change as he gets better. Judging from the preview of some of his next album, he appears to be climbing ever-still on the lyrical scale.

I also consider him a better lyricist (and a great one) in fact than many people's favourite rappers too anyway. I think his rapping is actually very overlooked. Because he puts a lot of emotion into what he says and makes the music itself so powerful but he really did develop and is still developing into a great lyricist. And was always better than people like... 50 Cent. Much better.

What's also impressive is the fact he's now on his 5th album and still doesn't appear to have peaked. Some may say he has already but people say that with everybody at different point. Point is, he's still trying to push boundries and still evidently improving in front of our eyes. I can't wait for Good Ass Job. Also, as you say - Him as an artist. That's what I feel is most impressive about him.

Not nearly enough musicians live up to the title of artist. I think he's one of the few that do and more. He encompasses every element; the visual, concept, theme, music, lyrics... he's a true visionary even if up his own ass to some people. I have bipolar anyway and think he has it. When he goes on this self-appraising rants or does these insane thinks I think what you're witnessing is mania. It's exactly what I do as well. Each idea starts to build on the next and you become self-delusional, start to think your ideas trump everybody else's in the World (literally) and it goes to different degrees, some manic-depressives start to think they're god etc. Kanye clearly exhibits this type of delusional grandiosity and is known for it. But I also think that's what makes him a genius in his art too.

If I could say this I would but I don't know that many big words

Greatly put EmBase

[Hiphopdane]

Kanye a better rapper than 50? That's really a fucked up thing to say since Kanye rarely makes internal rhymes.

[EminemBase]

^ It's not just about the rhymes, it has to be the whole package.

Being a great lyricist is more than just rhymes. Kanye is a much better lyricist than 50. 50's lyrics are so bad they make me cringe.

[Hiphopdane]

When you have zero breath control how can you be better than 50? Not saying Kanye is bad or anything but it's pretty obvious that he is a producer before he is a rapper.

Rakim kindda invented the internal rhymes more than 20 years ago and Kanye is still old fashioned when it comes to rhyme schemes.

[EminemBase]

When you have zero breath control how can you be better than 50? Not saying Kanye is bad or anything but it's pretty obvious that he is a producer before he is a rapper.

Rakim kindda invented the internal rhymes more than 20 years ago and Kanye is still old fashioned when it comes to rhyme schemes.

He doesn't have zero breath control. He purposely raps like that to sound full of emotion. Like on "Homecoming". The lyrics on that wipe the ass with anything 50 has wrote.

50 mumbles the same cliche' babble about guns n hos every album. And he's one of the least creative rappers in history. He's an embarrassment. Where as Kanye may not be as tight or structured as some rhymers but he's original. And again, the actual content. The things he says are way better than what 50 says. Way more witty or poetic or whatever the case may be.

[electroencephalogram]

4 Classics

Kanye singlehandedly killed the whole gangsta G-Unit bullshit. He has the most courage of any rapper to do what is not accepted just because that's how he wants to express himself. He's a true artist.