Mary J. Blige Says Jay-Z, Eminem LP Would Be 'Historic'

[Rollimeo]

I wouldn't want a Jay and Em to collab as an album but I would like them to do at least one song from them

[RapName]

...And she is right.

I'd certainly like it to happen, purely just out of interest.

Why not?

We got Encore/Relapse and it would probably be better than those two so yeah

Doubt it.
Jay hasn't made anything worth listening to since Bluprint and both Encore and Relapse > anything Jay has done (except Reasonable Doubt & Bluprint).
AND Em is off the pills now, so you can ATLEAST expect Recovery standard from his new stuff, maybe even better.

smh @ this post. It's like hip-hop fans just accept BP and RD as classics because everyone says so. Like Encore is wack, Kingdom was wack, I AM/Nastradaus was wack. This is a classic, bla bla bla. Stop following general consensus, or what XXL rates "XXL" or Five Mics.

BP and RD the only good Jay albums, yeah right. The Black album anyone?
Hasn't been good since BP3? Is that the cool thing to say now? His verses on Free Mason, Hot Toddy, Power rmx, and Monster are all fire.

You write a whole lot, but the only thing you're saying is that i base my opinion on genral consensus. I don't read XXL or The Saurce, but i do listen to the music and in my god damn own opinion Jay Z has fallen the fuck off. I hold his two first albums high and give them regular spins, but after that Jay Z hasn't given me anything new. He is saying the same shit, with the same couple of flows and he never challenges himself. Constantly staying in his comfort zone.
Maybe it's because he's turned in to an extremly talented and successful businessman where rapping is priority number two or because fame got the better of him, but Jay Z no longer has anything to offer hip hop in terms over orginality or taking it to the next level.
I will say this though, The Black album is a good album. Again, nothing new, but very well done.

[watevermannnn]

Doubt it.
Jay hasn't made anything worth listening to since Bluprint and both Encore and Relapse > anything Jay has done (except Reasonable Doubt & Bluprint).
AND Em is off the pills now, so you can ATLEAST expect Recovery standard from his new stuff, maybe even better.

smh @ this post. It's like hip-hop fans just accept BP and RD as classics because everyone says so. Like Encore is wack, Kingdom was wack, I AM/Nastradaus was wack. This is a classic, bla bla bla. Stop following general consensus, or what XXL rates "XXL" or Five Mics.

BP and RD the only good Jay albums, yeah right. The Black album anyone?
Hasn't been good since BP3? Is that the cool thing to say now? His verses on Free Mason, Hot Toddy, Power rmx, and Monster are all fire.

You write a whole lot, but the only thing you're saying is that i base my opinion on genral consensus. I don't read XXL or The Saurce, but i do listen to the music and in my god damn own opinion Jay Z has fallen the fuck off. I hold his two first albums high and give them regular spins, but after that Jay Z hasn't given me anything new. He is saying the same shit, with the same couple of flows and he never challenges himself. Constantly staying in his comfort zone.
Maybe it's because he's turned in to an extremly talented and successful businessman where rapping is priority number two or because fame got the better of him, but Jay Z no longer has anything to offer hip hop in terms over orginality or taking it to the next level.
I will say this though, The Black album is a good album. Again, nothing new, but very well done.

So his best shit is RD and BP, right? But you listen to his first two (RD and In My Life, Vol 1). I have a feeling you think BP is his 2nd album. I KNOW you haven't listened to Jays full discography, and I'd even put money that you haven't heard RD from start to finish.

The Black Album is good sure, but nothing new. Okay, the same could be said about almost every album, since there isn't that many game changers.


And yes, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. But they aren't of the same value. You get an opinion on your health from a doctor, real estate opinion from an agent, etc. How much is your opinion worth on hip-hop if you don't know what you're talking about? (this is not a shot at anyone, so don't get emotional)

There is so many Em fans who want to prove that they love hip-hop, it's a joke. It's okay to like a rapper and not rap, it's OKAY. But instead of people being true to themselves, so many just put on this corny act bumping their corny ass underground music claiming their down, it's a fkn joke.
Eminem and Jay are opposites. If you like Eminem and not rap, I don't expect you to turn on RD and see the genius of it, it's a foreign sound. But still, some people just downright lie to themselves.

[Jay-Hova]

Well put watevermann. Jay-Z wins, stans lose.

[RapName]

smh @ this post. It's like hip-hop fans just accept BP and RD as classics because everyone says so. Like Encore is wack, Kingdom was wack, I AM/Nastradaus was wack. This is a classic, bla bla bla. Stop following general consensus, or what XXL rates "XXL" or Five Mics.

BP and RD the only good Jay albums, yeah right. The Black album anyone?
Hasn't been good since BP3? Is that the cool thing to say now? His verses on Free Mason, Hot Toddy, Power rmx, and Monster are all fire.

You write a whole lot, but the only thing you're saying is that i base my opinion on genral consensus. I don't read XXL or The Saurce, but i do listen to the music and in my god damn own opinion Jay Z has fallen the fuck off. I hold his two first albums high and give them regular spins, but after that Jay Z hasn't given me anything new. He is saying the same shit, with the same couple of flows and he never challenges himself. Constantly staying in his comfort zone.
Maybe it's because he's turned in to an extremly talented and successful businessman where rapping is priority number two or because fame got the better of him, but Jay Z no longer has anything to offer hip hop in terms over orginality or taking it to the next level.
I will say this though, The Black album is a good album. Again, nothing new, but very well done.

So his best shit is RD and BP, right? But you listen to his first two (RD and In My Life, Vol 1). I have a feeling you think BP is his 2nd album. I KNOW you haven't listened to Jays full discography, and I'd even put money that you haven't heard RD from start to finish.

The Black Album is good sure, but nothing new. Okay, the same could be said about almost every album, since there isn't that many game changers.


And yes, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. But they aren't of the same value. You get an opinion on your health from a doctor, real estate opinion from an agent, etc. How much is your opinion worth on hip-hop if you don't know what you're talking about? (this is not a shot at anyone, so don't get emotional)

There is so many Em fans who want to prove that they love hip-hop, it's a joke. It's okay to like a rapper and not rap, it's OKAY. But instead of people being true to themselves, so many just put on this corny act bumping their corny ass underground music claiming their down, it's a fkn joke.
Eminem and Jay are opposites. If you like Eminem and not rap, I don't expect you to turn on RD and see the genius of it, it's a foreign sound. But still, some people just downright lie to themselves.

I have no intension in continuing this discussion since you clearly have decided I don't reach my own conclusions.
Cool story and all, and i actually agree with a lot of what you're saying. But i can't continue this when you don't agree that my opinion is my own.
And yes, i have heard RD from start to finish a lot of times and i know BP isn't a follow up on RD, but i still feel those two records are his absolutly best.

That being said, do you feel Jay Z now a days? Do you think BP3 was a good album?

[MikeNUFC]

I agree with watevermannnn in that a lot of hip hop fans (not just Eminem fans) just accept something is good or bad becuase of general consesus.

The amount of times I've heard people say "I Am.. is Nas' worst album, yo. It's whack" is unreal - I bet most of them havent even heard the album all the way through. I think I Am is a great album and that Hip Hop Is Dead is one of his worst.

I'm not aiming this at you, RapName, by the way, just a lot of hip hop "fans" in general.

It's like when people laughably say ROyce had better verses on 'Renegeade' than Jay-Z or that AZ is better than Nas - most people say it to look more knowledgable or clever just becuase AZ and Royce are more 'underground' than Nas & Jay.

In reality Jay's verses on Renegade shit on Royces and Nas is a WAYYYY better Emcee than AZ.

On the Jay-Z/Royce topic - I disagree that Royce has never had a classic - I think Death Is Certain is a classic album, admittely his only one. Jay at his best > Royce at his best. Royce at his worst > Jay at his worst.

Jay has a way better discography than Royce as well.

Mainstream-wise, Jay-Z is overrated; on these boards he is underrated.

Black Album > SSLP.

Black Album is a decent album but the SSLP is the best album of all time, OF ALL TIME! Seriously, SSLP is on another level to Black Album.

[ThomasJ]

@MikeNUFC If HHID is one of Nas' worst albums,that doesn't make it bad.
I actually think it's a great album.

And even though Nas IS a better MC,I don't think he's THAT much better as you made him look in your post.

[MikeNUFC]

@MikeNUFC If HHID is one of Nas' worst albums,that doesn't make it bad.
I actually think it's a great album.

And even though Nas IS a better MC,I don't think he's THAT much better as you made him look in your post.

I never said it's bad. It's his 3rd worst IMO - behind Streets Desiple and Nastradamus.

Nas is wayy better than AZ. Nas is just fucking immense. AZ is good but he can't compete with Nas.

It's like comparing Eminem to Royce. Royce is good but Eminem blows him out the water, although some people try to look clever and say Royce is better (LOL).

[ThomasJ]

I didn't say AZ was equal or better lol.
I'm just saying,that comment makes him look like an average/bad rapper,which he isn't.
Never mind lol

[Robbie G]

I completely agree with Mike.