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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby Alaine » Sep 29th, '10, 18:33

weren't we talking about both albums & singles sale though? and you should notice that both B.O.B's singles are pop-driven, not urban-driven hip-hop tracks, same with the success of LTWYL, it's also more pop-driven. Eminem has so many #1 albums over there cuz his music (or his first singles to be exact) usually pop-ish. Europe clearly more into pop/dance trend from what i see on charts
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby nathan123 » Sep 29th, '10, 18:53

Alaine wrote:weren't we talking about both albums & singles sale though? and you should notice that both B.O.B's singles are pop-driven, not urban-driven hip-hop tracks, same with the success of LTWYL, it's also more pop-driven. Eminem has so many #1 albums over there cuz his music (or his first singles to be exact) usually pop-ish. Europe clearly more into pop/dance trend from what i see on charts

no not neccessarily!
hip hop is hip hop, urban is hip hop music! songs from em like stan, lose yourself all reached number one and they were very 'urban' if you want, so dont rule out no love yet!

U.K is in europe but our culture is closer to americas than it is to france, germany etc.. and the same goes for music!
music over here is the same as over in the states..

dance songs are popular in europe, but only in non-english speaking countries
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby Mikey1990 » Sep 29th, '10, 19:01

so How well will No Love do?
i don't think its gonna do great in Europe
but pretty good in US,UK
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby Alaine » Sep 29th, '10, 19:05

nathan123 wrote:hip hop is hip hop, urban is hip hop music! songs from em like stan, lose yourself all reached number one and they were very 'urban' if you want, so dont rule out no love yet!


stan is quite clear a pop/rap track with that hook actually
there are hip-hop tracks that has more pop-mainstream feel to it and tracks that has more straight urban-street feel to it, No Love to me sounds more like a "street" single than a mainstream single if you know what I meant

and I wasn't in uk so of course I can only speak from what i see on the charts, but if uk has same taste like us how come Eminem the only hip-hop artist selling there?
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby nathan123 » Sep 29th, '10, 19:09

Alaine wrote:
nathan123 wrote:hip hop is hip hop, urban is hip hop music! songs from em like stan, lose yourself all reached number one and they were very 'urban' if you want, so dont rule out no love yet!


stan is quite clear a pop/rap track with that hook actually
there are hip-hop tracks that has more pop-mainstream feel to it and tracks that has more straight urban-street feel to it, No Love to me sounds more like a "street" single than a mainstream single if you know what I meant
and I wasn't in uk so of course I can only speak from what i see on the charts, but if uk has same taste like us how come Eminem the only hip-hop artist selling there?

so your basically saying a hiphop song with a hook from a woman is pop/mainstream?
All im saying is that because it is EMINEM and he is the biggest artist the uk for a while now dont rule out no love yet, an 'urban' song from eminem is differrnt than an 'urban' song from any other hiphop artist..

number one albums dont mean everything, jay z, kanye west, nelly, 50 cent and ja rule to a certain extent have all had success over here
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby Alaine » Sep 29th, '10, 19:16

nathan123 wrote:so your basically saying a hiphop song with a hook from a woman is pop/mainstream?

that's clearly not what I said, it sounds pop so it's pop, it doesn't matter if it's a man or woman singing it. Like Not Afraid, Space Bound, LTWYL sound more pop-ish, but Talkin' 2 Myself & No Love sound more urban, hmm how is this hard to understand? I thought anyone listening to music can quite see this? :unsure:
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby nathan123 » Sep 29th, '10, 19:25

Alaine wrote:
nathan123 wrote:so your basically saying a hiphop song with a hook from a woman is pop/mainstream?

that's clearly not what I said, it sounds pop so it's pop, it doesn't matter if it's a man or woman singing it. Like Not Afraid, Space Bound, LTWYL sound more pop-ish, but Talkin' 2 Myself & No Love sound more urban, hmm how is this hard to understand? I thought anyone listening to music can quite see this? :unsure:

i know what you mean, i jus dont get the fact that because its 'urban' it hasnt got a chance of being number one !

its EMINEM remember lol
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby AJS2050 » Sep 29th, '10, 19:26

I think No Love will have success in the UK. If Radio 1 place it on the A List within a few weeks than who knows. Radio 1 has a strong control over the UK chart. It will be interesting to see how people take to the song because the sample is very well known.
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby Alaine » Sep 29th, '10, 19:31

nathan123 wrote:i know what you mean, i jus dont get the fact that because its 'urban' it hasnt got a chance of being number one !

I haven't ruled out all the chances of it being a success in uk yet, just saying it will be harder
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby nathan123 » Sep 29th, '10, 19:39

AJS2050 wrote:I think No Love will have success in the UK. If Radio 1 place it on the A List within a few weeks than who knows. Radio 1 has a strong control over the UK chart. It will be interesting to see how people take to the song because the sample is very well known.

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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby walkedintoawall » Sep 29th, '10, 19:54

lol, stan is not pop at all.... just because it sings doesnt make it pop :facepalm
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby Alaine » Sep 29th, '10, 20:00

One Mic wrote:Alaine stop trying to say what you think the UK is "in to" purely just because you've looked at the UK charts for a few weeks or so. And unless you studied each weeks charts for a good few years then there is no way you can forge an opinion like that.

Plus our charts in the UK mainly have "commercial rap" in our top 10 on a regular basis.

This isn't America fam charts don't mean shit.

Plus if you knew anything you would realise that Radio 1 dictate what does well in the charts.

Whatever is hot on Radio 1 is hot on the charts

Sad but true

i've been looking at charts since 2008, so it's actually a few years
but I don't claim i was all right though cuz I don't follow uk charts as close as us charts

I didn't say anything about radio, as so far we don't know about that

walkedintoawall wrote:lol, stan is not pop at all.... just because it sings doesnt make it pop :facepalm

it's pop/rap, the verses are rap & the hook is pop
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby nathan123 » Sep 29th, '10, 20:06

^^
na na ni, the hook is SINGING alaine, jus cos she sings doesnt turn it into pop lmao :facepalm
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby Mikey1990 » Sep 29th, '10, 21:15

fter Zac Brown Band’s chart-topping bow, look for BNA/Sony Music Nashville’s Kenny Chesney to enter at #1 next week with Hemingway’s Whiskey eyeing a total between 180-200k, more than enough to lead the charge.


He’s on target for a total that will exceed his last album, Lucky Old Sun, which opened in Oct. 2008 with 176k, according to those music retailers who haven’t turned their stores into Jamba Juice outlets.



Next up is imprisoned rapper Lil Wayne’s 10-track digital-only release for Cash Money/Universal Motown, I Am Not a Human Being, with the physical album coming out Oct. 12. First-week digital sales are projected to be in the 90-100k range.



Asylum rapper Gucci Mane’s third album, The Appeal: Georgia’s Most Wanted, is next up, with a total that looks to be between 60-65k.
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Re: Recovery Sales Thread - 14th Week 66k

Postby slicknickshady » Sep 30th, '10, 00:11

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_ ... 2#comments

Eminem's Recovery this week pulls ahead of Lady Antebellum's Need You Now as the best-selling album so far in 2010. If Recovery can stay out front through the end of the year, Eminem will become the first artist in Nielsen/SoundScan history (which dates to 1991) to have the best-selling album of the year twice. The rap icon had the best-selling album of 2002, The Eminem Show.

50 Cent and the High School Musical cast came close. They each had the #1 album of one year and the #2 album of another year. Get Rich Or Die Tryin' was #1 for 2003. The Massacre was #2 for 2005. HSM was on top for 2006. HSM2 was #2 for 2007.

Recovery has sold 2,656,000 copies in 14 weeks. Need You Now has sold 2,641,000 copies in 35 weeks. The rest of the top five albums so far in 2010 are Justin Bieber's My World 2.0 (1,811,000), Lady Gaga's The Fame (1,399,000 this year) and Sade's Soldier Of Love (1,256,000).

For Eminem to hold on to his #1 standing, he will have to withstand late challenges from two artists who sold huge numbers of their last albums. Taylor Swift's Speak Now is set for release on Oct. 25. Susan Boyle's The Gift is due on Nov. 9. Swift's sophomore album, Fearless, sold 3 million copies in its first 22 weeks in late 2008 and early 2009. Boyle's debut album, I Dreamed A Dream, blew through 3 million copies in its first six weeks in late 2009.
Eminem is the G.O.A.T Rapper.
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