Do yall think hip hop/rap is the..

[mcZu]

What people seem to forget is that every genre borrows from each other. Hip Hop music has been influenced by Jazz, Blues, and Rock. A lot of Hip Hop instrumentals are made of Jazz, Blues, and Rock instruments/samples. Hip Hop music, in its essence, is poetry over Jazz, Bluess, and in some cases, Rock instruments.

I think most of us here were like Poetry >>> Any other genre
I don't think anyone was talking specifically about beats....

You mis interpreted my post... I never said any of you guys claimed that poetry is better than other genre, because poetry isn't a music genre, that comparison isn't even logical.

Nor did I claim that you guys were talking about beats. I broke the entire package of Hip Hop music down in components to show how, Hip Hop as music genre, borrowed a lot from different genres.

The point I was trying to make is that music = music. Don't put it in different boxes.

[KillahBee]

One thing I wanna add, there is a hip hop album for EVERYONE, which I can't say about every other genre

What a ridiculous thing to say lol.

Of course there isn't.

If someone hates hip hop, they hate hip hop. You think there is really a hip hop album for Bill O'Reilly and the millions of people like him in the world?

Why not?
Just because somebody doesn't like the type of hip hop they where exposed to do you really think that means they'd hate it in every form?

In case you haven't noticed, hip hop isn't one genre of music, its atleast 15-20 sub genre's, Southern hip hop differs to East, West, Midwest, Chi-town, etc, and then you have jazz rap, experimental, instrumental, hardcore, abstract, hyphy, Memphis rap, horrorcore, coke rap, gangster rap, politcal rap, battle rap, rock rap, pop rap, etc - do you honestly think somebody would hate every single sub genre of rap music? I'd highly doubt it myself

Your comment is basically saying "if you hate hip hop, thats it, end of", does that also mean if you like hip hop you should like it in every form? No, of course it doesn't, plenty of people on here hate commercial rap, does that mean they hate hip hop? No, because that's only ONE of MANY niches of the genre

[FreeSpeech]

Others appreciate Jazz and other faggy shit. If this were the greatest genre, then everybody who appreciate that faggy shit would also appreciate Hip-hop, but they don't. It's subjective (I fucking hate that word), but that is what's great about music: There's so much for everyone, everybody enjoys music. There's so much we still haven't heard.

You're an idiot, Jazz is one of the genres that has influenced hiphop a great deal. What exactly is "faggy shit"? The only genres I never really listen to is techno and death metal...

[Satire]

Others appreciate Jazz and other faggy shit. If this were the greatest genre, then everybody who appreciate that faggy shit would also appreciate Hip-hop, but they don't. It's subjective (I fucking hate that word), but that is what's great about music: There's so much for everyone, everybody enjoys music. There's so much we still haven't heard.

You're an idiot, Jazz is one of the genres that has influenced hiphop a great deal. What exactly is "faggy shit"? The only genres I never really listen to is techno and death metal...

Lol at this mad man. It's pretty obvious to anyone with half a sense of context or even an IQ of over 70 that I was joking/trolling, you stiff dumb ass.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

I will tell you one thing though, that I am completely clueless towards other genres outside hip hop, and listen to whatever's on the radio. I'll give you a hint I listen to Katy perry.

oh shit,u listen to katy perry

nothing u say anymore is valid bruh!

LOL @ callin satire idiot.

faggy shit is EMO rock or black rock,that is faggy shit,techno is faggy shit.

anything that doesnt require talent is faggy shit

[The Shady Virus]

This is why people hate rap music and why there is not respect for it from a wider mass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a16NUb3WC-4

It makes rap music look like the least intelligent genre. Hands down.

[Tornado]

Fuck all this "no genre is best" talk. Rap is the best genre out there.

Yes, music is universal, and it does cater to taste more, but no other genre can do Hip-Hop. The most variety (i mean look at different kinds of Rap we have and all the different other genres we sample and you can get alot more creative in subject than most other genres by far. And let's face it, since Hip-Hop was rising in the 90's, it was influencing mainstream artists, who they worked with and how tracks sounded, lots of pop then was using Hip-Hop sounds, which only up unto a few years ago lost it's influence to Electronic sounds. Rap embodies poetry more, artists don't have to sing to make you feel what they say. Of course Hip-Hop is infleunced itself, but what genre isn't? I ain't saying fuck other genres but rap is the best genre out there.

Most of ya'lls music library is mainly Hip-Hop i bet aswell....

[dead prez]

@ satire I don, t have a cat and I thought we already established that you sent me that pic and a pic of your mother for losing our bet. And so what if I listen to I kissed a girl? You also forgot teenage dream, waking up in Vegas, and hot & cold as well as my chemical romance.

As far as hip hop being the most lyrical genre is debatae, but I'm in my phone rite now and don't feel like typing out an essay as to why I think other genres can be as lyrical.

[Satire]

@ satire I don, t have a cat and I thought we already established that you sent me that pic

Oh and everyone about earlier, yeah that wasn't Satire, I was kidding.

a pic of your mother for losing our bet.

I've never met my mom....

. And so what if I listen to I kissed a girl? You also forgot teenage dream, waking up in Vegas, and hot & cold as well as my chemical romance.

As far as hip hop being the most lyrical genre is debatae, but I'm in my phone rite now and don't feel like typing out an essay as to why I think other genres can be as lyrical.

Concession accepted. And I think they can too, obviously. Anything with lyrics can be incredibly lyrical. But in general, just looking at a wide perspective of all music, if I wanted a "lyrical experience" I would look into hip hop first. It's simply easier to say more in 48+ speedy, rhythmic bars than other forms of writing.

[8milestyle]

Rap is my favorite genre, but I don't think it is the "best" genre. There is no one best genre. I'm guessing OP is young judging from his stiff, close-minded attitude toward music. There are many genres out there that I listen to. It just depends on the mood I'm in.

I'm not really a fan of jazz. I used to be a hardcore, straightedge punk and listen to that music and that shit still gets me pumped more than any other genre. I love me some Alternative rock, some classic Green Day and Blink-182. I love me some classic rock too. I love me some "indie" rock and I even love me some pop. Taylor Swift is SO talented, Avril Lavigne can tear up a mic, Akon makes some club bangers. Usher and Chris Brown are some of the most complete artists out there right now.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Rap is my favorite genre, but I don't think it is the "best" genre. There is no one best genre. I'm guessing OP is young judging from his stiff, close-minded attitude toward music. There are many genres out there that I listen to. It just depends on the mood I'm in.

I'm not really a fan of jazz. I used to be a hardcore, straightedge punk and listen to that music and that shit still gets me pumped more than any other genre. I love me some Alternative rock, some classic Green Day and Blink-182. I love me some classic rock too. I love me some "indie" rock and I even love me some pop. Taylor Swift is SO talented, Avril Lavigne can tear up a mic, Akon makes some club bangers. Usher and Chris Brown are some of the most complete artists out there right now.

lol i am not being close minded,plus im 18.

[Manly Moose]

Lyrically Hip/Hop is the best, musically its probably the last. Other genres can have good lyrics and some rap songs have great compositions. Rap is the most complex genre lyrically and other genres are infinitely more capable musically. Neither is better or worse

(Unless we are talking todays standard for "music" then rap wins hands down, cause it seems like all the producers/composers are retarded/lazy these days + all the singers who are either average/terrible and the terrible song writers.) I feel sorry for people that think Usher and Chris Brown are amazing artists or that Taylor Swift is an amazing singer.


For me its very hard to listen to rap and then put on some Bruce Springsteen right after. It really depends on what your feeling at the moment. If you only listen to a single genre then of course your gonna thinks its the best, and it would be very hard for that person to branch out.

[dead prez]

I've never met my mom....

Proof plox, you lying sack of shit.

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Katy Perry>>>The girl in your avatar.

Concession accepted.

And I think they can too, obviously. Anything with lyrics can be incredibly lyrical. But in general, just looking at a wide perspective of all music, if I wanted a "lyrical experience" I would look into hip hop first. It's simply easier to say more in 48+ speedy, rhythmic bars than other forms of writing.

It's just this common misconception people have that you have to have 40 bars to be 'lyrical" and spit 10 syllables each line to be lyrical, when you don't rap is probably the only genre that puts so much emphasis on multies and to try and use that as the epoch of lyricism is unfair and biased. Not talking to you specifically but I know lots of people have that idea.

And some of the best lyricist ever aren't even rappers Bob Dylan for example.

[Satire]

I've never met my mom....

Proof plox, you lying sack of shit.

Wow...

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Katy Perry>>>The girl in your avatar.

The amount of homosexuality that emits from you when you listen to her actual music cancels out any attractiveness of her. Plus, have you seen her without make-up? Atrocious.

No argument? Concession accepted again.

It's just this common misconception people have that you have to have 40 bars to be 'lyrical" and spit 10 syllables each line to be lyrical, when you don't rap is probably the only genre that puts so much emphasis on multies and to try and use that as the epoch of lyricism is unfair and biased. Not talking to you specifically but I know lots of people have that idea.

And some of the best lyricist ever aren't even rappers Bob Dylan for example.

None of this applies to me considering I just said that other genres can be just as lyrical.

Dead Prez defeated once again.

[dead prez]

Wow...

Concession accepted

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The amount of homosexuality that emits from you when you listen to her actual music cancels out any attractiveness of her. Plus, have you seen her without make-up? Atrocious.

How does my sexual orientation take away from her attractiveness?

Oh and Katy Perry without makeup>>The girl in your avatar with makeup

No argument? Concession accepted again.

Look down

None of this applies to me considering I just said that other genres can be just as lyrical.

Dead Prez defeated once again.

That's what I got out of your initial post

but I'll say it's probably the most lyrical genre