Do bad rappers know they suck

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aslong they get more money than any of you....then you the one who sucks
no really..im sick of all the Wack Rapper / Good Rapper discussion
accept the fact that everyone is a GOOD rapper at what HE does..

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[ThomasJ]

Drake is not wack. lol

How so?

The pre-Young Money Drake...

[FreeSpeech]

it doesnt matter to them.

@Freespeech

do u want me to name hotter active rappers who dropped albums in 05 that shit on C2?

you fuckin delusional dawg,kanye dropped his hottest album in 05,if anybody had the right to call himself that in 05,its kanye.

you call yourself a kanye fan.

You don't think I know that? Obviously I think Kanye's album was better, that doesn't mean he was more dominant. Wayne was killing with features, he was the go to guy in hiphop. Kanye sold more, yes, but Wayne was the hottest name in hiphop. Wayne was kicking mixtapes out the ass at that time.

See, the funny thing is, you honestly can't talk on who was the hottest rapper at the time. You don't live in America, and I feel you weren't even a huge rap fan back in 05 (I could be wrong on that). All you know is what you read on the internet. You never actually witnessed the fact that practically every kid I knew was rocking Weezy and thinking he was the best. Maybe things were the same in your country, but it's honestly pretty irrelevant.

[Kez]

Drake is not wack. lol

How so?

The pre-Young Money Drake...

So basically you're defending him by saying he's a huge sellout

[FreeSpeech]

So basically you're defending him by saying he's a huge sellout

I don't think he's a sellout, he's always made songs for the ladies and whatnot. I'm fine with that, he's making music for people to enjoy. Drake himself wasn't happy with TML, he said it was a rushed project. I liked it, but it was disappointing. If his next album isn't real good, I'll concede he's completely fallen off.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

it doesnt matter to them.

@Freespeech

do u want me to name hotter active rappers who dropped albums in 05 that shit on C2?

you fuckin delusional dawg,kanye dropped his hottest album in 05,if anybody had the right to call himself that in 05,its kanye.

you call yourself a kanye fan.

You don't think I know that? Obviously I think Kanye's album was better, that doesn't mean he was more dominant. Wayne was killing with features, he was the go to guy in hiphop. Kanye sold more, yes, but Wayne was the hottest name in hiphop. Wayne was kicking mixtapes out the ass at that time.

See, the funny thing is, you honestly can't talk on who was the hottest rapper at the time. You don't live in America, and I feel you weren't even a huge rap fan back in 05 (I could be wrong on that). All you know is what you read on the internet. You never actually witnessed the fact that practically every kid I knew was rocking Weezy and thinking he was the best. Maybe things were the same in your country, but it's honestly pretty irrelevant.

LOL,wayne is always hot as fuck here,hes on the same level as Em here

Ive been listenin to rap since 02.

nobody knows kanye here outside of Gold Digger and Stronger,lol.

im just sayin that C2 aint the hottest or best album of 05,thats a FACT

[FreeSpeech]

LOL,wayne is always hot as fuck here,hes on the same level as Em here

Ive been listenin to rap since 02.

nobody knows kanye here outside of Gold Digger and Stronger,lol.

im just sayin that C2 aint the hottest or best album of 05,thats a FACT

You are honestly just not a smart person, I don't know how else to say it. The fact that no one knows Kanye where you're from proves my point that you can't really talk on this.

I never said C2 was better than Late Registration, it obviously isn't. I said Wayne was the hottest rapper alive, which he was. It's really not debatable, at least not with you seeing as how you have no actual first hand experience.

[Kez]

So basically you're defending him by saying he's a huge sellout

I don't think he's a sellout, he's always made songs for the ladies and whatnot. I'm fine with that, he's making music for people to enjoy. Drake himself wasn't happy with TML, he said it was a rushed project. I liked it, but it was disappointing. If his next album isn't real good, I'll concede he's completely fallen off.

I wasn't even talking to you lmao. My point is that to defend a rapper by saying "Oh he was good pre-[whatever]" doesn't really help, it just shows that they sold out once they got a deal. Talking as though getting a deal is somehow automatically bound to be detrimental to peoples music.

[FreeSpeech]

I wasn't even talking to you lmao. My point is that to defend a rapper by saying "Oh he was good pre-[whatever]" doesn't really help, it just shows that they sold out once they got a deal. Talking as though getting a deal is somehow automatically bound to be detrimental to peoples music.

I know, but I can still answer the question...

And Drake didn't sell out, he still makes the same kind of music, just not as good. He underachieved, nothing more. If you look at TML, he stayed true to his roots. 8 of the 14 tracks are produced by 40, who's been with him from the beginning. He only had one chick on a hook, and that was Alicia Keys, and the song wasn't even a single. The album wasn't dominated by features or anything.

[Kez]

I wasn't even talking to you lmao. My point is that to defend a rapper by saying "Oh he was good pre-[whatever]" doesn't really help, it just shows that they sold out once they got a deal. Talking as though getting a deal is somehow automatically bound to be detrimental to peoples music.

I know, but I can still answer the question...

And Drake didn't sell out, he still makes the same kind of music, just not as good. He underachieved, nothing more. If you look at TML, he stayed true to his roots. 8 of the 14 tracks are produced by 40, who's been with him from the beginning. He only had one chick on a hook, and that was Alicia Keys, and the song wasn't even a single. The album wasn't dominated by features or anything.

I ask you, if all this was true, why did he feel the need to justify Drake by saying he was good "before Young Money"?

[FreeSpeech]

I ask you, if all this was true, why did he feel the need to justify Drake by saying he was good "before Young Money"?

Because he was? That doesn't mean YM is what caused him to release some subpar material. He could just as easily have said Drake was good before TML, same thing.

I do think YM negatively influences Drake a bit though. That doesn't mean he sells out, I just think that hanging around with Wayne and Nicki is a far worse influence than if he was in NY and hanging with Kanye, Jay, and J Cole.

[FreeSpeech]

the massacre was the BIGGEST (not best) album of 2005 in Lebanon, neither Wayne or Kanye, Candy Shop was the shit and 50 cent was all over the place, disco inferno, just a lil bit etc.....


2003-2005,50 cent owned it

Again, not to be a dick, but Lebanon is not exactly relevant. Not saying they don't have great hiphop fans, but I don't think any rappers care about what the Lebanese think of their album...

[Kez]

I do think YM negatively influences Drake a bit though. That doesn't mean he sells out, I just think that hanging around with Wayne and Nicki is a far worse influence than if he was in NY and hanging with Kanye, Jay, and J Cole.

This I agree with. I mean Young Money are like a fucking plague, they pretty much influenced the whole rap game negatively lately.

[Sam.]

Long as they're getting their bitches & money, Why would they give a damn ?

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[FreeSpeech]

I do think YM negatively influences Drake a bit though. That doesn't mean he sells out, I just think that hanging around with Wayne and Nicki is a far worse influence than if he was in NY and hanging with Kanye, Jay, and J Cole.

This I agree with. I mean Young Money are like a fucking plague, they pretty much influenced the whole rap game negatively lately.

Yeah like, I like some of their stuff and I don't really care what they say on their own albums. I just don't want every rapper out sounding like a Young Money artist. That's one reason I was so happy with MBDTF, it was basically the antithesis of Young Money rap, radio rap really. Both Nicki and Ross had very dope verses/parts on the album, and there was basically 0 Young Money influence. It was all Kanye.

The thing that pisses me off is when they shout "Young Money!" on every guest track they get on. No Love is great, but two things piss me off: At the beginning, Wayne's trademark lighter sound comes on AND the first words of the song are "Young Money." I honestly can't believe Em let that shit fly.