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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby EminemBase » May 13th, '11, 12:41

Am not a Stan. Am a fan. (and yes I know my response is predictable). But so is the use of that word, if we just call every fan a Stan, the word loses its weight.

I'll take title of best debater or, longest poster, or most longwinded annoying fuck... whatever. It's not an ego thing - but, Stan needs to be reserved for people who will defend Eminem personally and at any length NO MATTER WHAT, and who are as interested in his personal life, as his music. And people who try to act and be like Eminem.

I do none of those things. And yes somebody will reply saying I do 'ha ha' what a great response but, I actually dare anybody to challenge me as you'll see I make logical arguments for and against him all the time. A Stan would not say Eminem did X wrong or, 'this' is wrong with his output etc.

And if you'd care to look for my posts in any other section on this forum you'll see I write as much, if not more about other subjects. People think because I write a lot about Em, I'm a Stan. But that's just because this is an Eminem forum. I write a lot - period. About anything.
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby Almostlity » May 13th, '11, 16:06

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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby Almostlity » May 13th, '11, 16:22

He has 'Eminem' in his name, that makes him a stan. Deal with it.
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » May 13th, '11, 16:22

hes covering it up,but lello is the BIGGEST stan of all time.
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby EminemBase » May 13th, '11, 17:20

Almostlity wrote:He has 'Eminem' in his name, that makes him a stan. Deal with it.


No, I have the URL to my site (EminemBase.com) in my name, which I've owned since 2008. Because I've been into Internet Marketing since I was about 15.

I've created, sold and discarded tons of websites throughout the years, it's a hobby and a passion. The fact I own one on Eminem is simply because he is somebody I know about and therefore it's an easy thing to make a website about.

I also have a company website for my web design business and numerous other websites.

Also, if I was on say... a cooking forum, and had Eminem in my username you'd have a point. But, remind me what forum we're on again?... (but that's besides the point anyway, as it's a URL, DUH). So having my Eminem website URL in my username, on a huge Eminem forum, which is regularly scanned by search engines doesn't make me a 'Stan'. It makes me smart.

Deal with it.
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby dead prez » May 13th, '11, 17:48

EminemBase wrote:Am not a Stan. Am a fan. (and yes I know my response is predictable). But so is the use of that word, if we just call every fan a Stan, the word loses its weight.

I'll take title of best debater or, longest poster, or most longwinded annoying fuck... whatever. It's not an ego thing - but, Stan needs to be reserved for people who will defend Eminem personally and at any length NO MATTER WHAT, and who are as interested in his personal life, as his music. And people who try to act and be like Eminem.

I do none of those things. And yes somebody will reply saying I do 'ha ha' what a great response but, I actually dare anybody to challenge me as you'll see I make logical arguments for and against him all the time. A Stan would not say Eminem did X wrong or, 'this' is wrong with his output etc.

And if you'd care to look for my posts in any other section on this forum you'll see I write as much, if not more about other subjects. People think because I write a lot about Em, I'm a Stan. But that's just because this is an Eminem forum. I write a lot - period. About anything.

To be fair though, no one fits this magical standard that you're setting up, I doubt any of the other nominated "stans" care who Eminem dated in HS, what he ate for breakfast, or any other useless pop trivia shit that relates to him.

Fact is most people who are unfamiliar with you or read your posts would assume (and yes assuming is stupid) that you are one. Nowadays the word stan is given to just about anyone that listens to the music of said artist religiously and defends them and their music against most other artists, that's really all the criteria needed to be a stan. Not that being a "stan" is a bad thing or is automatically given negative connotations, as I'd be the first to admit I'm a Ghostface/Nas/P stan even if I could give less of a fuck about their lives (well I was planning on buying P's book).

That said if we were going by the stricted definition of "stan" and to be one you have to harbor some weird obssession with Eminem and know all about his personal life than I doubt any one would really fall under that, which that makes this thread pointless to begin with.
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby EminemBase » May 13th, '11, 18:12

diction wrote:Fact is most people who are unfamiliar with you or read your posts would assume (and yes assuming is stupid) that you are one. Nowadays the word stan is given to just about anyone that listens to the music of said artist religiously and defends them and their music against most other artists, that's really all the criteria needed to be a stan.


Well in that case I'm not a Stan under that criteria either. I don't listen to Eminem religiously, I listen to him maybe once a week. I listen to Kanye, Nas and many other artists just as much if not more... so I don't see how listening to somebody regularly makes you a Stan.

As for defending him against most other artists, no - I'll defend ANY artist, or anybody on the grounds of logic. If somebody said X artist's song is better than X song by Eminem and I genuinely thought it was too, I wouldn't defend Eminem and say his is better, just because it's Eminem. I'm defending the work (any work) on the grounds of logic and / or taste.

So surely you need to at least do that otherwise the definition is so broad that to be a Stan, all you need to basically do is like an artist's work lmao. Which is just absurd. There needs to be a level of blind bias, which I never have. I'm logical, and I look at Em's work the same as I do anybody else's.

Now, if it happens that he impresses me more than anybody else, that's just matter of fact. But then I'll also say when I think he's jumped the shark, passed it, missed the mark or whatever else. Just like I would ANY artist. That's just normal.

Again, anybody who doubts or wants to challenge anything I've said here, I'd be quite happy to go and dig-up many of the posts I've made on say Kanye. And I'm no Kanye Stan either. I just like what he does as an artist and, I focus on a handful of artists. I'll give anybody that - my taste is not broad and wide, I'm simply too obsessive a thinker and there isn't enough time in the day. So I hop from one artist to the next and study them for a while...

But again, there's no blind bias or everlasting Stanship. I think a Stan of Eminem at least has to be something like the 15 year old girls you see screaming and crying and the type who if you dare even criticize a single element of a lyric or song flip out and say he's the greatest and he can't do anything wrong. And THAT - does exist. And I'm not that.
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby dead prez » May 13th, '11, 18:19

I'm not saying that you defend him blindly, mind you, just that most people who come across your posts usually see you defend him against other artists if you were to compare their work. Now you could make an argument that you're defending them by being logical and level headed and not accepting any garbage he just throws out as quality music, but really I doubt guys like Amadeo, Menzo, EmInsider etc. defend his material solely because it's Eminem's as well.

Though I will just drop this though, as I do agree that stan is thrown for just about anyone who's a fan of said artists' work even if it doesn't really apply, just that a lot of people who read your posts might get the wrong idea. :y:
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby EminemBase » May 13th, '11, 18:23

diction wrote:I'm not saying that you defend him blindly, mind you, just that most people who come across your posts usually see you defend him against other artists if you were to compare their work. Now you could make an argument that you're defending them by being logical and level headed and not accepting any garbage he just throws out as quality music, but really I doubt guys like Amadeo, Menzo, EmInsider etc. defend his material solely because it's Eminem's as well.


Yes but if you ever see me arguing his work is better than X Y or Z that's because I genuinely think it is. And I never just say "Eminem is better full stop" without backing up why I think that. I always lay out why I think what I think, if you can do that and you're backing up what you say with elements of logic or clear, honest reasoning... I don' see how that's 'blind faith' or 'blind defending' of him, which is what most here mean when they say Stan.

So, if I genuinely think something Eminem does is better than something X does or we're in a debate of comparisons: it doesn't make me, or anybody else a 'Stan' if I / we happen to think what Eminem has done is genuinely better. That's taste.

And, I'm not going to say something Em has done is worse, if I don't think it is... just to not look like a Stan lmao. It's really pathetic. If somebody was comparing dancers against Michael Jackson and you kept going "ergh, nah MJ is better than that" are you then a Michael Jackson Stan? even though the dancers you're seeing clearly don't compare.

I'll say if I think somebody is better than Em. But I also will say when I think they're not lmao. We have a new legion of fake Em haters here who are so desperate to appear anti-Eminem so they don't look like Stans that they go out of their way to announce it.

I'm not a Stan. I'm a fan.

I think for example that My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy was a braver, more vividly executed piece of art than anything Em has put out since The Marshall Mathers LP. And I think it's a better album than Recovery. Kanye is not a better rapper, technically speaking - but as an album, it's more solid.

Now... if i was a Stan of Eminem, how could I possibly think that?... I wouldn't. I'd think that Recovery is better than everything that Kanye has put out.
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby momentsgolden » May 13th, '11, 18:25

Geno wrote:
Menzo wrote:If the 'best Stan' is the most sensible one, then thank you for the mentions :b:

I agree with this.

And thanks bud.


I nominated you first :angry:
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby Almostlity » May 13th, '11, 18:29

Funny thread. :D but to be honest.. biggest 'stan' here is that Miller dude..
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby Satire » May 13th, '11, 18:51

I really wasn't expecting this thread to go anywhere, but thanks EminemBase :smoking:. I'm changing my 2nd nomination to Amadeo.
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby Sam. » May 13th, '11, 20:54

stan's are retards thank god i moved on :coffee:
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby classthe_king » May 13th, '11, 23:45

Coleon said this once,

"We know more about Eminem than 99% of the world, we're all stans"

And that's pretty much right so get over it. Eminembase is a stan, I'm a stan, Satire is a stan, basically everyone on this forum is a stan. Some more than others, obviously, but when it comes down to it we're all stans.
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Re: Best Stan Award Nominations

Postby dead prez » May 13th, '11, 23:47

classthe_king wrote:Coleon said this once,

"We know more about Eminem than 99% of the world, we're all stans"

And that's pretty much right so get over it. Eminembase is a stan, I'm a stan, Satire is a stan, basically everyone on this forum is a stan. Some more than others, obviously, but when it comes down to it we're all stans.

I'm not :unsure: , I didn't join this forum for Eminem.
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