"Hip Hop Is A Lesser Form Of Music"

[Manly Moose]

They say that because when they think of Hip-Hop they think of Soulja Boy and Pop rap or rappers that they cant understand. Most of the time they havent heard any good hip-hop songs. It is true that hiphop songs are usually less complicated musically though.

@Class

Lady Gaga's new album is a lesser form of music, not hip-hop.

[Chet Starr]

I would say "Sir please I'm just trying to eat my sandwich during my break."

[Sla]

What do you say to somebody that says this?

To be more tolerant and open-minded. I would tell him about the respect rappers are having in the US, how important they are for the culture.

[christalgurl]

Hip hop music is the most complex genre of music when done correctly. Most other artists get "songwriters" to write their songs for them or write only some of their music, while in hip hop, the artist writes each and every piece of music they put out. Hip hop uses so many writing techniques that other styles of music don't use, such as metaphors, punchlines, rhyming, multis, etc. Real hip hop music always comes from the heart; it's a passion. Hip hop music is a whole culture, unlike so many other genres. Hip hop can make you laugh, cry, feel angry, any emotion you can think of, hip hop will make you feel it. There's no way to say that's below any other music form. Stop being so judgmental and close minded. Hip hop music is just as important as any other genre, if not more. Expand your knowledge of the genre before you judge it.

[classthe_king]

Honestly Hip-Hop is without a doubt the easiest genre to do. Most rappers don't even make their own music so the instrumental is already there for them. Then all they have to do is write to it, and you guys over overrestimating writing lyrics. You can go to any random Hip-Hop forum and there will be people that can write just as good, if not better than most big rappers. Playing an instrument is much harder. Anyone can write a 16, not everyone can pick up a guitar and shred.

[Chilli]

Hip hop music is the most complex genre of music when done correctly. Most other artists get "songwriters" to write their songs for them or write only some of their music, while in hip hop, the artist writes each and every piece of music they put out. Hip hop uses so many writing techniques that other styles of music don't use, such as metaphors, punchlines, rhyming, multis, etc. Real hip hop music always comes from the heart; it's a passion. Hip hop music is a whole culture, unlike so many other genres. Hip hop can make you laugh, cry, feel angry, any emotion you can think of, hip hop will make you feel it. There's no way to say that's below any other music form. Stop being so judgmental and close minded. Hip hop music is just as important as any other genre, if not more. Expand your knowledge of the genre before you judge it.

Hip-hop is far from the most complex genre. Lyrically (which I THINK is what you're trying to say), I would agree it definitely takes more skill than most other genres. But musically, it is definitely one of the most simple.

Saying most other artists get songwriters to write their songs is a bit of an exaggeration. That's only the real talentless motherfuckers out there who are only famous because of their looks or "nice singing voice". Meaning bubblegum pop shit. Which, of all the music being made around the world, is a small, small minority.

Typically, hip-hop is based around looping and sampling, which is very easy to do. Sampling someone else's music is far easier than writing from scratch. If you listen to a typical Dre beat, it's based around one main bass line which loops throughout the entire track, then will alternate between maybe two or three more melodies played on a synth, keyboard or guitar which are taken in and out of the mix.

Compared to a lot of music, hip-hop is rarely structured in a creative way. It usually just consists of verse, chorus, verse, chorus, verse, chorus. Occasionally you'll get a bridge or some scratching thrown in there.

In saying that, the simplicity of hip-hop music benefits it because, in essence, it is all about the lyricism. But I can't wait to see hip-hop evolve to become more progressive and musically interesting.

[dead prez]

There's a lot of ignorant posts in this thread, that make me want to bitch smack the shit out of said posters.

I'll just say that repeating a 4 note power chord for 3 mintues isn't exactly amazing , just like writing a generic verse about being gangsta or emo isn't exactly hard either.

Just because Rock features instruments doesn't innately make the genre more talented, I mean if you make comparisons between Frank Zappa and 50 cent than you might have a point, now switch it around and make a comparison between someone like Nas and Breaking Benjamin, than who looks bad?

Instruments=/= talent

About the whole rap is more lyrical than other genres bs, just because guys like Bob Dylan/Frank Zappa/ or Daniel Gildenlow don't deliver their lyrics in the same way that artists like Nas/Eminem/Tech N9ne do don't make them any less lyrical.

[Master Chief]

First of all, Breaking Benjamin is boss.

Now. What's harder to write? A song with deep content and complex rhyme schemes or a rock song with deep content and one syllable rhymes? Keep in mind, that other aspects of lyricism can be present on both sides but a Rock song with comples rhyme schemes is non-existent.

In terms of writing, a Rock/Pop song is literally no match for a GOOD Hip Hop song. The complexity that a Hip Hop song can have FAAAAR surpasses anything another song from a different genre would wish to be.

That's all I'm gonna argue.

[classthe_king]

I love how nobody cares about lyrics, it's all about how the music "sounds" but when you bring in a Hip-Hop vs. Other genres debate all you want to do is talk about lyrics

[Master Chief]

I love how nobody cares about lyrics, it's all about how the music "sounds" but when you bring in a Hip-Hop vs. Other genres debate all you want to do is talk about lyrics

If you can't find a quote of me saying that, delete your account.

Inb4"thatwasn'tdirectedtoyou". Yeah, shut up bitch.

[classthe_king]

It was actually directed at everyone in the thread but since you felt that it was directed at you, what does that say about you?

[Master Chief]

Well, considering I was the last post before you posted that and I was talking about lyrics, what else am I supposed to think?

If you have the slightest clue that leads you to believe I said that I only care about how the music sounds, go ahead... accept my offer and get to work.

[classthe_king]

Well you said Slaughterhouse > Rhyme Asylum so obviously you care more about how the music sounds trololololol

[Kez]

Anyone who would say something like this is as much of a moron as the people who respond by saying "HIP HOP IS BETTER THAN YOUR GENRE". All music should be acknowledged as equal. It's individual artists which make music shit, not the genre.

[dead prez]

First of all, Breaking Benjamin is boss.

Now. What's harder to write? A song with deep content and complex rhyme schemes or a rock song with deep content and one syllable rhymes? Keep in mind, that other aspects of lyricism can be present on both sides but a Rock song with comples rhyme schemes is non-existent.

In terms of writing, a Rock/Pop song is literally no match for a GOOD Hip Hop song. The complexity that a Hip Hop song can have FAAAAR surpasses anything another song from a different genre would wish to be.

That's all I'm gonna argue.

Break Benjamin can kiss my ass.

Anyways first off who said that there's some overarching cosmic law saying that you need X amount of syllables to be lyrical? As a matter of fact putting that at the forefront of lyricism for other genres that aren't Hip Hop is fucking stupid and one sided, what about songs that don't intend to rhyme in the first place? That pretty much throws your rule out the window, and I'll just like to say that complexity=/= better lyricism, or are you one of those type of people that mirror idiotic Prog rock fans that think playing more notes equals better music?