This is What Encore Should of Been Like For Real

[Wreck]

1. Curtains Up (skit)
2. Evil Deeds
3. Never Enough (featuring 50 Cent & Nate Dogg)
4. Yellow Brick Road
5. Like Toy Soldiers
6. Mosh
7. Bully
8. Love You More
9. We As Americans
10. Ricky Ticky Toc
11. Paul (skit)
12. Em Calls Paul (skit)
13. Just Lose It
14. Monkey See, Monkey Do
15. Spend Some Time (featuring Obie Trice, Stat Quo & 50 Cent)
16. Crazy In Love
17. Mockingbird
18. One Shot 2 Shot (featuring D12)
19. Final Thought (skit)
20. Encore/Curtains Down (featuring Dr. Dre & 50 Cent)

I replaced all the poppy, shitty songs on here & replaced them with the 3 (great) bonus songs on Encore, & added Bully & Monkey See Monkey Do since they were similar tracks recorded around the time before he released Encore. Also, I flipped flopped Mockingbird & Crazy In Love. This is because Spend Some Time is talking about chick drama, and the next track is talking about his kids, then Crazy In Love is talking about Kim, aka chick drama, so it makes sense to flip flop the 2.

Thoughts?

[Wreck]

The only shitty song I left on here was Just Lose it, obviously, because I because it was the lead single, & it fit his normal trend of using poppy songs as his lead single.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Some people just refuse to understand,what is conceived as great songs from Encore are not all that at all.

People seem to think these tracks are very good:
Like Toy Soldiers
Yellow Brick Road
Never Enough (Ft. 50 Cent,Nate Dogg)
Encore (Ft. 50 Cent & Dr.Dre)
Evil Deeds
Mosh
Ricky Ticky Toc
Just Lose It
Mocking Bird

Yellow brick Road and Evil deeds/Like Toy Soldiers have a couple instances of good rapping,though.

Plus,why do people hang on the illusion that Encore is bad because the tracks intended for it leaked,Em has full creative control and i bet my bottom dollar Interscope does not give him a deadline for turning an album in,no,he (with the drugs in him) chose to make these songs,im referring to Rain Man,Ass Like That etc....

Only tracks from that era that are really good are:
We As American
Love You More
Bully
Spend Some Time

/rant

[ColdWindCriminal]

I'd be fine with Em calls Paul if it didn't have the robot voice
and if Encore took out the Curtains Down ending. Seriously, that last song actually almost made me forgive him for the "funny" songs earlier......until they had to ruin it with Robo-Shady-murder-suicide

[Trimss]

Spend Some Time could have been on TES, but without Fifty and Stat Quo.

Obie's and Eminem's verse are

[Devil'sAdvocate]

DA! opinion so fact.

Gotta share the knowledge my nikka.

[Wreck]

Some people just refuse to understand,what is conceived as great songs from Encore are not all that at all.

People seem to think these tracks are very good:
Like Toy Soldiers
Yellow Brick Road
Never Enough (Ft. 50 Cent,Nate Dogg)
Encore (Ft. 50 Cent & Dr.Dre)
Evil Deeds
Mosh
Ricky Ticky Toc
Just Lose It
Mocking Bird

Yellow brick Road and Evil deeds/Like Toy Soldiers have a couple instances of good rapping,though.

Plus,why do people hang on the illusion that Encore is bad because the tracks intended for it leaked,Em has full creative control and i bet my bottom dollar Interscope does not give him a deadline for turning an album in,no,he (with the drugs in him) chose to make these songs,im referring to Rain Man,Ass Like That etc....

Only tracks from that era that are really good are:
We As American
Love You More
Bully
Spend Some Time

/rant

Spend Some Time is not that good, it's decent. I like Em's verse, Obie's was good too, but the song isn't better than the ones you claim here to be "bad." Seriously, how the fuck are Yellow Brick Road- classic Em storytelling song, Like Toy Soldiers is good and has a good message, it's not great, but it's good, and so is the video- a perfect visual for the track, people hate on that for no reason.

Ricky Ticky Toc was just a plain good song. It wasn't great, it wasn't good good, and it didn't suck, but I take it for what it's worth- not bad.

Never Enough is a good song, idk why you hate that song. Both verses are good, and Nate's chorus is great too. Still don't understand the hate on that.

Encore I consider a great mellow club song. Not the 3/4 poppy club songs that I hate on Encore that I deleted off of this OP. The going back and forth shit was nice. It was not a typical Em club song, where most of them- The Real Slim Shady, Just Lose It, We Made You, etc. focus more on celebrities, then just spitting. I liked the song personally.

Evil Deeds had some little tidbits of storytelling. It's decent. I would agree w/ this example you make, but regardless, myself- I like this song as well, just melodically.

Mosh is a dope song, I don't see the hate on that either. I liked the so called video for it too, and it was a classic Em vs. the government, fuck Bush song. He has targeted him before obviously & people liked those respectful songs, so I see this as no different honestly. I think it's underrated, not overrated.

Just Lose It sucks. It's funny and catchy, nothing more. A typical first single by Em as I said. People that think it's great are stupid.

& Mockingbird is a great, passionate, storytelling song. I bet you don't have kids, or at least daughters, for you to understand the importance of this shit. I don't have daughters, I'm just putting the track into perspective. Love the video for this too.

So explain to me that.

[Mr Change]

Some people just refuse to understand,what is conceived as great songs from Encore are not all that at all.

People seem to think these tracks are very good:
Like Toy Soldiers
Yellow Brick Road
Never Enough (Ft. 50 Cent,Nate Dogg)
Encore (Ft. 50 Cent & Dr.Dre)
Evil Deeds
Mosh
Ricky Ticky Toc
Just Lose It
Mocking Bird

Yellow brick Road and Evil deeds/Like Toy Soldiers have a couple instances of good rapping,though.

Plus,why do people hang on the illusion that Encore is bad because the tracks intended for it leaked,Em has full creative control and i bet my bottom dollar Interscope does not give him a deadline for turning an album in,no,he (with the drugs in him) chose to make these songs,im referring to Rain Man,Ass Like That etc....

Only tracks from that era that are really good are:
We As American
Love You More
Bully
Spend Some Time

/rant

Spend Some Time is not that good, it's decent. I like Em's verse, Obie's was good too, but the song isn't better than the ones you claim here to be "bad." Seriously, how the fuck are Yellow Brick Road- classic Em storytelling song, Like Toy Soldiers is good and has a good message, it's not great, but it's good, and so is the video- a perfect visual for the track, people hate on that for no reason.

Ricky Ticky Toc was just a plain good song. It wasn't great, it wasn't good good, and it didn't suck, but I take it for what it's worth- not bad.

Never Enough is a good song, idk why you hate that song. Both verses are good, and Nate's chorus is great too. Still don't understand the hate on that.

Encore I consider a great mellow club song. Not the 3/4 poppy club songs that I hate on Encore that I deleted off of this OP. The going back and forth shit was nice. It was not a typical Em club song, where most of them- The Real Slim Shady, Just Lose It, We Made You, etc. focus more on celebrities, then just spitting. I liked the song personally.

Evil Deeds had some little tidbits of storytelling. It's decent. I would agree w/ this example you make, but regardless, myself- I like this song as well, just melodically.

Mosh is a dope song, I don't see the hate on that either. I liked the so called video for it too, and it was a classic Em vs. the government, fuck Bush song. He has targeted him before obviously & people liked those respectful songs, so I see this as no different honestly. I think it's underrated, not overrated.

Just Lose It sucks. It's funny and catchy, nothing more. A typical first single by Em as I said. People that think it's great are stupid.

& Mockingbird is a great, passionate, storytelling song. I bet you don't have kids, or at least daughters, for you to understand the importance of this shit. I don't have daughters, I'm just putting the track into perspective. Love the video for this too.

So explain to me that.

Shit just got serious.

I gotta go with DA on this one

[Wreck]

Some people just refuse to understand,what is conceived as great songs from Encore are not all that at all.

People seem to think these tracks are very good:
Like Toy Soldiers
Yellow Brick Road
Never Enough (Ft. 50 Cent,Nate Dogg)
Encore (Ft. 50 Cent & Dr.Dre)
Evil Deeds
Mosh
Ricky Ticky Toc
Just Lose It
Mocking Bird

Yellow brick Road and Evil deeds/Like Toy Soldiers have a couple instances of good rapping,though.

Plus,why do people hang on the illusion that Encore is bad because the tracks intended for it leaked,Em has full creative control and i bet my bottom dollar Interscope does not give him a deadline for turning an album in,no,he (with the drugs in him) chose to make these songs,im referring to Rain Man,Ass Like That etc....

Only tracks from that era that are really good are:
We As American
Love You More
Bully
Spend Some Time

/rant

Spend Some Time is not that good, it's decent. I like Em's verse, Obie's was good too, but the song isn't better than the ones you claim here to be "bad." Seriously, how the fuck are Yellow Brick Road- classic Em storytelling song, Like Toy Soldiers is good and has a good message, it's not great, but it's good, and so is the video- a perfect visual for the track, people hate on that for no reason.

Ricky Ticky Toc was just a plain good song. It wasn't great, it wasn't good good, and it didn't suck, but I take it for what it's worth- not bad.

Never Enough is a good song, idk why you hate that song. Both verses are good, and Nate's chorus is great too. Still don't understand the hate on that.

Encore I consider a great mellow club song. Not the 3/4 poppy club songs that I hate on Encore that I deleted off of this OP. The going back and forth shit was nice. It was not a typical Em club song, where most of them- The Real Slim Shady, Just Lose It, We Made You, etc. focus more on celebrities, then just spitting. I liked the song personally.

Evil Deeds had some little tidbits of storytelling. It's decent. I would agree w/ this example you make, but regardless, myself- I like this song as well, just melodically.

Mosh is a dope song, I don't see the hate on that either. I liked the so called video for it too, and it was a classic Em vs. the government, fuck Bush song. He has targeted him before obviously & people liked those respectful songs, so I see this as no different honestly. I think it's underrated, not overrated.

Just Lose It sucks. It's funny and catchy, nothing more. A typical first single by Em as I said. People that think it's great are stupid.

& Mockingbird is a great, passionate, storytelling song. I bet you don't have kids, or at least daughters, for you to understand the importance of this shit. I don't have daughters, I'm just putting the track into perspective. Love the video for this too.

So explain to me that.

Shit just got serious.

I gotta go with DA on this one

Lol sorry, I had to break it all down.

I respect your opinion though bro .

[SliK]

He should have saved Stimulant and used it on Encore.

[EminemBase]

Plus,why do people hang on the illusion that Encore is bad because the tracks intended for it leaked,Em has full creative control and i bet my bottom dollar Interscope does not give him a deadline for turning an album in,no,he (with the drugs in him) chose to make these songs,im referring to Rain Man,Ass Like That etc....

Well we don't know Em has full creative control.

We know that Jimmy at least pressures him into making a lead single from "The Way I Am". He made him make "The Real Slim Shady".

That's just one example and Em's skits have suggested he's pressured in other ways. So we really have no idea, obviously they'll say he has full control so he looks integral.

But look at Recovery too. He comes out with an album about rape and murder and knew exactly what he was doing, said he didn't want it to be so personal anymore... then when it didn't land, he modelled the next album around "Beautiful" - the one out of place song on the album that he was probably pressured into putting on there as a 'safety track' (as it's more like older styles).

Recovery then had just all the hot producers and names in that moment. Sure he could of chosen to do this and part of me even thinks he did and I think he's needy and wanted to be praised and couldn't handle the mixed / slightly negative reaction to Relapse.

Either way I think it's clear he's not in absolute, uninhabited control.

So don't you think it's possible he was pressured into making goofy tracks to lighten Encore up? as if you remove those tracks, the album is very very serious. And after The Eminem Show, and the fact he's supposed to be known to be a prankster, don't you think Jimmy and co. would of liked him to connect with the kiddies a little more?...

That could explain why the 'funny tracks' are so forced and out-of-place. Maybe it wasn't the leak that made him make those tracks, but a pressuring to lighten the album up.

[Mr Change]

Plus,why do people hang on the illusion that Encore is bad because the tracks intended for it leaked,Em has full creative control and i bet my bottom dollar Interscope does not give him a deadline for turning an album in,no,he (with the drugs in him) chose to make these songs,im referring to Rain Man,Ass Like That etc....

Well we don't know Em has full creative control.

We know that Jimmy at least pressures him into making a lead single from "The Way I Am". He made him make "The Real Slim Shady".

That's just one example and Em's skits have suggested he's pressured in other ways. So we really have no idea, obviously they'll say he has full control so he looks integral.

But look at Recovery too. He comes out with an album about rape and murder and knew exactly what he was doing, said he didn't want it to be so personal anymore... then when it didn't land, he modelled the next album around "Beautiful" - the one out of place song on the album that he was probably pressured into putting on there as a 'safety track' (as it's more like older styles).

Recovery then had just all the hot producers and names in that moment. Sure he could of chosen to do this and part of me even thinks he did and I think he's needy and wanted to be praised and couldn't handle the mixed / slightly negative reaction to Relapse.

Either way I think it's clear he's not in absolute, uninhabited control.

So don't you think it's possible he was pressured into making goofy tracks to lighten Encore up? as if you remove those tracks, the album is very very serious. And after The Eminem Show, and the fact he's supposed to be known to be a prankster, don't you think Jimmy and co. would of liked him to connect with the kiddies a little more?...

That could explain why the 'funny tracks' are so forced and out-of-place. Maybe it wasn't the leak that made him make those tracks, but a pressuring to lighten the album up.

I agree with this.

And in the end, their whole strategy just fell apart and the album became what it is today.

[Goblin]

If that was really what Encore would have been, then it would have definitely been a classic. Also people wouldn't be pissed that it came after TES too. I've seen fans get upset cause they think that an artists as talented as Em is, shouldn't be talking about farting right after a album full of great tracks.

[ThomasJ]

This is what people who keep making this thread should have been, for real:

Don't post these types of pictures.

[djdixie]

This is what people who keep making this thread should have been, for real:

thats fuckin sick as fuck