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EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Sekou » Nov 1st, '11, 15:00

Is Eminem's sick relationship to his mother and his inability to trust women to attribute to a classic Oedipus complex?

On "I'm Back" he fills the ubiquitous metaphor of being a "motherfucker" with denotative substance - and it's probably not a coincidence that Eminem desires the death of his father at other points in his musical career ( "And by the way, when you see my dad / Tell him that I slit his throat in this dream I had" )

He seems discern his mother as woman, as a feasible object of desire:
( "When I was little I used to get so hungry I would grow fits / how you gonna breast-feed me, mom? You ain't got no tits!" )
( "Shut up slut, you're causing too much chaos / Just bend over and take it like a slut, okay Ma?" )

The suggested fantasy of incest in "I'm Back" is obviously known to us all:

"'Cause if I ever stuck it to any singer in showbiz
It'd be Jennifer Lopez, and Puffy you know this!
I'm sorry Puff, but I don't give a fuck if this chick was my own mother
I still fuck her with no rubber and cum inside her
And have a son and a new brother at the same time
And just say that it ain't mine, what's my name?"

Of course Eminem's incestuous thoughts depend on the premise that the "woman" is a girl as appealing as sex-idol Jennifer Lopez - but perhaps the fact that the breach of taboo comes in so casually makes it even beastlier. It seems that the coveted-hated mother lights up in every female figure.
J. Lo is then consequently degraded to a minor character in the course of the sentence, whereas the subjunctive mother gains an independent existence, while the breach of taboo is lead into absurd highs (or lows), with Eminem claiming deliberately not to use a condom and, in further consequence, denying the paternity.

I don't really know where I'm going with this, but I was thinking about Eminem's crazy relations with women while listening to I'm Back and this just crossed my mind.
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Fa-Q » Nov 1st, '11, 15:25

He also says in Crazy In Love:

They say that every man grows up to marry his own mother.
Which would explain why you're such a motherfucking bitch :unsure:
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Nov 1st, '11, 16:56

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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Ka0t1c » Nov 1st, '11, 16:59

disturbing
oh yeah... and thanks for nothing too
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby flyingmonkey10 » Nov 1st, '11, 17:34

Ka0t1c wrote:disturbing

not really, it's not a surprising read, if you know a lot about psychology and freud and yadda yadda yadda

and LOL at your avatar :y: :laughing:
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Sam. » Nov 1st, '11, 18:47

Whatever he says is his Entertainment persona ,not real. ~He himself said that.
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Trimss » Nov 1st, '11, 19:28

Lol. That's stupid as fuck.

Oedipus Complex would be if Eminem hated his father because he's dating/fucking his mom. But we all know Eminem clearly hates his father because he left him, he left Debbie and gave no news.

If he had that complex, he would've been happy that his dad is no longer there.

Sekou wrote:Is Eminem's sick relationship to his mother and his inability to trust women to attribute to a classic Oedipus complex?

On "I'm Back" he fills the ubiquitous metaphor of being a "motherfucker" with denotative substance


This isn't Serious Debate. My brain wasn't ready to understand that man.
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Sekou » Nov 1st, '11, 19:32

Sam. wrote:Whatever he says is his Entertainment persona ,not real. ~He himself said that.


He himself also said that he uses his music to deal with all the shit in his life. That's also why he talks about killing people, instead of actually doing it. So what you're saying is not really a refutation.

Trimss wrote:Lol. That's stupid as fuck.


Can't comprehend. :tounge2:

Trimss wrote: Oedipus Complex would be if Eminem hated his father because he's dating/fucking his mom.


Eh... it's not that simple.
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Trimss » Nov 1st, '11, 19:36

I know what Oedipus is man.. Eminem is just mad angry because his father left him. He said in the 60 minutes interview he would do anything to find his child if he lost them.

And his dad didn't do it.

No oedipus!

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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Sekou » Nov 1st, '11, 19:46

Trimss wrote:I know what Oedipus is man.. Eminem is just mad angry because his father left him. He said in the 60 minutes interview he would do anything to find his child if he lost them.

And his dad didn't do it.

No oedipus!

#problemsolved


True, but that's not what I was talking about.

What ranks foremost in my deliberations is Eminem's sexually perverted image of his mother in his lyrics and not the hate for his father.
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Sam. » Nov 1st, '11, 20:02

His daughters would grow up to become a woman some day,so 'cord to you he will not trust them due to that Octopus Complex or w/e you're talking about.He is well matured guy now and not the extreme minded person that he was back then.

He trusts women a lot tbh,if you by chance have read the Book "Cleaning Out My Closet" then you would realize that he trusted the Author of the book(who happened to be his best friend).He trusted her to raise Hailie and if you Eminem well then...it's obvious.He just expressed himself in this way so that no women should use him like a tool and rub him in their wrong direction.
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby BILI » Nov 1st, '11, 20:18

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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Sekou » Nov 1st, '11, 20:27

Sam. wrote:His daughters would grow up to become a woman some day,so 'cord to you he will not trust them due to that Octopus Complex or w/e you're talking about.He is well matured guy now and not the extreme minded person that he was back then.

He trusts women a lot tbh,if you by chance have read the Book "Cleaning Out My Closet" then you would realize that he trusted the Author of the book(who happened to be his best friend).He trusted her to raise Hailie and if you Eminem well then...it's obvious.He just expressed himself in this way so that no women should use him like a tool and rub him in their wrong direction.


That is not in the slightest what I was talking about. This is not dealing with his inability to trust women in general.
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Sam. » Nov 1st, '11, 20:30

You just don't wanna understand.Bye.Word.Cyaa
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Re: EMINEM Oedipus Complex?

Postby Sekou » Nov 1st, '11, 20:31

Sam. wrote:You just don't wanna understand.Bye.Word.Cyaa


Lol you just can't understand. We're talking about different topics. :shakehead:
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