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Em is relapsing!

Postby Blu » Nov 6th, '11, 07:05

Check this shit out:

SSLP - He came out, critics didn't like his music, and the masses were like "ehh"
MMLP - He's criticizing critics for hating on his music dawg. His fans love him.

Relapse - He came out, ONCE MORE, but his critics weren't really feelin' his shit. The masses were like "ehh" but the true hip hop heads were like YEAHHH!
Recovery - He's criticizing critics ONCE MORE for hating on Relapse. His fans love him even more..

If this theory is true, expect the next album to have subject matter like The Eminem Show.

If this theory is wrong, then let the world know, that Eminem goes on this forum.
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby mdemaz » Nov 6th, '11, 07:17

Recovery was nothing like MMLP doe..
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby Blu » Nov 6th, '11, 07:29

Menzo wrote:I don't think he criticized the critics...at all with Recovery, I'd say he poked way more fun at the critics on H:TS.

On MMLP he was talking about how critics just kept talkin about how SSLP was so offensive and whatnot.

Same with on Recovery, he was saying how critics wasn't feelin his shit, daaaaaaaaaaaawg.
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby mdemaz » Nov 6th, '11, 07:39

Relapse is probably going to be the closest thing to pre-Encore era as you can get, I can't say this enough.
But you may have a point, his next album may have those TES flows, this is already evident in songs such as A Kiss.
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby Fa-Q » Nov 6th, '11, 08:20

Think about this, in between MMLP and TES, he released a side project with D12...He released BME with Royce...so many parallels. ;)
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Nov 6th, '11, 09:07

So you're saying Recovery was better then MMLP?
I wanted an album so rugged nobody could touch it.
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Now how in the fuck am I supposed to get out of debt?
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby AbramIsaac » Nov 6th, '11, 11:15

TheGentlePlayer wrote:So you're saying Recovery was better then MMLP?

I think Geno's saying that Relapse 2 would have been the MMLP, and Recovery, as a chronological and stylistic progression is TES. Not that Recovery was better than the MMLP, or even on par with TES.

I would say that it's debatable that TES is better than the MMLP anyway. When that album came out, everyone thought it was shit. Some people said that he'd fallen off after the SSLP. Ridiculous.

Anyway, off-topic. I hope I clarified a point that wasn't mine to clarify sufficiently.
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby Norway kills » Nov 6th, '11, 11:24

Geno wrote:Em skipped the modern day MMLP with Relapse 2. He went straight to the modern day TES with Recovery.

And instead of repeating Encore he did BME. Now, like Re-Up, he's focusing on Shady 2.0

So his next studio album will be another Relapse?! :o
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby Almostlity » Nov 6th, '11, 11:27

when Relapse came out 'true' hiphop-heads were like 'ehh' tbh.
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby VenomBlackViper » Nov 6th, '11, 11:32

Why is no one assuming he'll make another Encore next? :unsure: Can we stop being so fucking hopeful & positive on here for once? You guys sugarcoat his falling off with hopefulness so much that I got type 2 diabetes just reading the replies in here.

AbramIsaac wrote:
TheGentlePlayer wrote:So you're saying Recovery was better then MMLP?

I think Geno's saying that Relapse 2 would have been the MMLP, and Recovery, as a chronological and stylistic progression is TES. Not that Recovery was better than the MMLP, or even on par with TES.

I would say that it's debatable that TES is better than the MMLP anyway. When that album came out, everyone thought it was shit. Some people said that he'd fallen off after the SSLP. Ridiculous.

Anyway, off-topic. I hope I clarified a point that wasn't mine to clarify sufficiently.


I'll see your off topic comment & raise you one, have you ever considered making a Last.FM? Interested in seeing what your charts would look like.
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby AbramIsaac » Nov 6th, '11, 11:43

I have, but when I'll get around to it is yet to be seen.

I've been looking into a lot of that type of stuff in between working on my own music, so I'm sure it's just a matter of time. I think people would probably be disappointed though, when they see that I'm not in on any of that edge-of-the-mainstream shit everyone seems to be listening to.

I would be interested to see what songs I listen to the most though. I haven't really thought about it until you said something just now.
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby VenomBlackViper » Nov 6th, '11, 11:57

The process is actually really simple, takes like 5 minutes at the most. It's not some strenuous task that requires weeks of mediation in the mountains & push ups before attempting. Also if you use iTunes or WinAmp you can import all your previous plays as well & it will already show your top artists/top songs/number of plays.
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby AbramIsaac » Nov 6th, '11, 12:15

VenomBlackViper wrote:The process is actually really simple, takes like 5 minutes at the most. It's not some strenuous task that requires weeks of mediation in the mountains & push ups before attempting. Also if you use iTunes or WinAmp you can import all your previous plays as well & it will already show your top artists/top songs/number of plays.

I do those things before I jack off or shit, believe me, it will take thought before I put my music listens out there for everyone to see.
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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby _Hawk_ » Nov 6th, '11, 13:14

VenomBlackViper wrote:Why is no one assuming he'll make another Encore next? :unsure: Can we stop being so fucking hopeful & positive on here for once? You guys sugarcoat his falling off with hopefulness so much that I got type 2 diabetes just reading the replies in here.

AbramIsaac wrote:
TheGentlePlayer wrote:So you're saying Recovery was better then MMLP?

I think Geno's saying that Relapse 2 would have been the MMLP, and Recovery, as a chronological and stylistic progression is TES. Not that Recovery was better than the MMLP, or even on par with TES.

I would say that it's debatable that TES is better than the MMLP anyway. When that album came out, everyone thought it was shit. Some people said that he'd fallen off after the SSLP. Ridiculous.

Anyway, off-topic. I hope I clarified a point that wasn't mine to clarify sufficiently.


I'll see your off topic comment & raise you one, have you ever considered making a Last.FM? Interested in seeing what your charts would look like.


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Re: Em is relapsing!

Postby Francesco » Nov 6th, '11, 13:40

Blu wrote:Check this shit out:

SSLP - He came out, critics didn't like his music, and the masses were like "ehh"
MMLP - He's criticizing critics for hating on his music dawg. His fans love him.

Relapse - He came out, ONCE MORE, but his critics weren't really feelin' his shit. The masses were like "ehh" but the true hip hop heads were like YEAHHH!
Recovery - He's criticizing critics ONCE MORE for hating on Relapse. His fans love him even more..

If this theory is true, expect the next album to have subject matter like The Eminem Show.


You got it all wrong my dude...
The masses or people who are not into hip-hop, plus a lotta critics were always & will always gonna be like "ehh" "wtf" etc. regarding EM's albums while Hip-hop fans were mostly doubting EM before 'TSSLP' & when it dropped everybody was like "DAMN". Apart from those same critics who'd shit on his albums whatsoever, 'TSSLP' was acclaimed album from day one, esp. on the West Coast & to be honest it was never ciritisized about the quality of the album, mostly about violence & homophobia or in 'The Source' case 'cuz EM was a white dude who does black peeps' music.

'Relapse' was critisized mostly 'cuz of the accents or 'cuz it was all over the place but like you said whoever knows Hip-hop was like "YEAH" 'cuz EM is spitting fire balls on it. The problem with it was general buyers didn't feel it, not critics or whoever but unlike you said, Eminem himself critisized 'Relapse' on "Recovery" first & then ridiculously critisized critics for doing so which made it clear he was told if he wants his super sales back, he had to convince his fans he KNOWS & agrees with 'em he fucked up with his last two albums but now with 'Recovery' he's back & brings something totally different. I mean it's good tactics & it worked 'cuz it's easier to convince people you believe in something you actually don't, rather than convince 'em to believe in something they surely don't, but it's ridiculous when you contradict yourself on the same album & even more ridiculous when you contradict yourself on the same song as in "Not Afraid" EM goes...
"From "Infinite" down to the last 'Relapse' album
he's still shittin, whether he's on salary paid hourly
Until he bows out or he shits his bowels out of him"
& then
"Let's be honest, that last "Relapse" CD was ehhh"

If you add he's praised 'Relapse' on other songs after "Recovery" it becomes crystal overall.
Bottom line is... nothing what happened in the past resembles to what is happening now & Eminem's next album is gonna most likely be way different than every other one he's done, esp. 'The Eminem Show' in that matter.
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