Eminem Cypher Lyrics

[Blu]

Eminem's verse was the best, in my opinion.

But, I don't understand why people say this verse reminded them of Slim Shady type stuff.

To be honest, I didn't really feel a "Slim Shady" type vibe. Like EmBase said, Eminem's evolving into a new style.

That's a good thing though. His flow, delivery, and lyricism for this verse was top-notch.

I hope we get more incredible verses like this.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Speaking of Crooked, his verse is ridiculously underrated. It was just straight rhyming, I love it.

how he lets rhymes control the flow

[EminemBase]

Royce was not that good either. I saw somebody say his verse 'underrated' - I see everybody saying he killed it. I think he gets overrated due to the fact he's associated with Em and a lot of people feel like he doesn't get enough credit for his Bad Meets Evil work. So they overcompensate.

But aside from his rhymes and good flow(s), he's rarely lyrically outstanding to me. At best he comes off as 'Eminem light' as in, he tries to emulate Em's tongue-in-cheek and pop-culture references, which obviously are not solely identifiable with Em - lots of rappers do this but...

Royce openly admits to being influenced by Em and regarding him as the greatest, and better than him though. And you can hear the homage to Em's style / attitude in his lyrics now. Which is fine, but I don't find them to be particularly great or entertaining.

I like Royce, both as a rapper and as a person, but to suggest his lyrics in that cypher were incredible or on par with Em's just ain't true. His phrasing and ideas were nowhere near as interesting. A lot of his stuff falls flat in the wit arena to me, and just comes off as silly.

Joe Budden and Em both easily had the top two for me.

That entire post was attacking the fact that I think that Royce was on-par with Eminem and in some points better. I came here to post my opinion, I don't wanna argue about everything I post.

My post was not 'attacking' yours. My post was explaining why I disagree with your statement that Royce's verse was on par with, or better than, Eminem's.

If you can't handle people disagreeing with you then maybe you shouldn't post on a discussion forum. That, to me, is the point of posting on a discussion forum. If not that then what? you want people to just affirm everything you say to message your ego?

If you just want to hear your own views and opinions congratulated or affirmed, then why not just write them out in a notepad and sit in your basement jerking off over them whilst reading them aloud back to yourself, nodding and patting yourself on the back (wipe first!).

Royce's verse wasn't as talked about as it wasn't as good. The Rihanna line wasn't even very witty, it was just the phrasing of it / delivery and repetition which made it notable in that environment.

Joe and Yela had much better verses.

That's your opinion, too, it isn't a fact.

Yes, WE KNOW.

We don't all have to continuously tell ourselves and each other that our tastes are 'just opinions'. The very fact taste is personable and by definition individual, IMPLIES THAT. We, don't, need, to keep, emphasizing it in every single, god, damn, post.

If I see something you say and I disagree with it, and I feel like posting, I am going to respond to you. Deal with that, as I'm not going to stop because you can't handle opposing views.

You stated something, and I disagreed with it, so I stated why I disagree with it. Done.

[mdemaz]

I agree with CREAM...
Some people just need to leave it alone...I know people love discussing all the possibilities, but what's done is done..

It was a pretty cool verse anyway..
I would hope he continues to rap like this, if not, at least keep the style from Hell and modify it slightly.

[EminemBase]

Lob, what in the hell implied that I can't handle with oppsing views?
Say your opinion, don't present them as facts "Saying Royce was on par with Eminem just isn't true". It sounded like you're presenting science-proven facts reviewed by a thousand of professional rap analyzers.

And in a discussion board, you don't have to argue about everything possible, sometimes you just wanna post and leave, done, I debated with you once already for you to know that I do these debates but I'm simply not feeling like it. But even if I wanted to display my disagreement towards another person's opinion I would say something like "I prefer ___ because *insert one line or three essays here*". I wouldn't force it up like "__ is better", or "that just isn't right".

Can't believe I wrote all that shit fron my phone, should have a lot of typos but whateva.

The very fact you responded in the way you did shows that you can't handle opposing views, when they are communicated with any assertiveness.

You said, and I quote "Royce's verse needs more appreciation tbh, most underrated verse in there, definitely goes with Em's verse if not better." - You didn't say "I prefer Royce's verse to Eminem's". You stated that it 'definitely' goes with Em's verse, if not better.

How is that any different? you know why I didn't respond stating it was 'only your opinion'? because that's absolutely obvious and implied. The fact it's coming out of your mouth, and based on your taste, means, it's your opinion. We don't need to state that.

And just because it's opinion doesn't mean we need to keep bowing to each other in courtesy and stating it, or saying "oh by the way, this is just MY taste", we know. It's redundant. You can state your opinions with as much assertiveness as you like.

You said that the way you did because based on what you consider good / bad, you determine that Royce's verse is as good as, or better than, Eminem's. Now, based on what I consider good / bad, I don't. So I'm going to state what I think, with just as much, if not more assertiveness as I'm expressing my disagreement with your view.

I can't tell you that you prefer Eminem's verse if you don't anymore than you can tell me I prefer Royce's when I don't. That is the only truly subjective element here, and constantly emphasizing it is tedious, it's implied and we get it, we all get that.

Taste is rooted in and fed by objective reasoning. So, the reasons as to why you think Royce's is as good or better, are not random. Taste may at first feel inherently random or personal but it all has a logical basis in some sense. So, as long as you can justify your basis for your taste, you can assert it with as much assurance and confidence as you wish.

I didn't personally insult you, I didn't say you can't prefer Royce's verse - I simply explained, why I do not believe what you believe, to be the case. Deal, with it.

If you don't wish to have the debate or discussion, simply don't respond. Easy.

[buffalo bill]

That's enough, nіggers.

[Mr Change]

That's enough, nіggers.

Seriously though, the arguing isn't going anywhere..

[BigBangBazinga]

Lob, what in the hell implied that I can't handle with oppsing views?
Say your opinion, don't present them as facts "Saying Royce was on par with Eminem just isn't true". It sounded like you're presenting science-proven facts reviewed by a thousand of professional rap analyzers.

And in a discussion board, you don't have to argue about everything possible, sometimes you just wanna post and leave, done, I debated with you once already for you to know that I do these debates but I'm simply not feeling like it. But even if I wanted to display my disagreement towards another person's opinion I would say something like "I prefer ___ because *insert one line or three essays here*". I wouldn't force it up like "__ is better", or "that just isn't right".

Can't believe I wrote all that shit fron my phone, should have a lot of typos but whateva.

The very fact you responded in the way you did shows that you can't handle opposing views, when they are communicated with any assertiveness.

You said, and I quote "Royce's verse needs more appreciation tbh, most underrated verse in there, definitely goes with Em's verse if not better." - You didn't say "I prefer Royce's verse to Eminem's". You stated that it 'definitely' goes with Em's verse, if not better.

How is that any different? you know why I didn't respond stating it was 'only your opinion'? because that's absolutely obvious and implied. The fact it's coming out of your mouth, and based on your taste, means, it's your opinion. We don't need to state that.

And just because it's opinion doesn't mean we need to keep bowing to each other in courtesy and stating it, or saying "oh by the way, this is just MY taste", we know. It's redundant. You can state your opinions with as much assertiveness as you like.

You said that the way you did because based on what you consider good / bad, you determine that Royce's verse is as good as, or better than, Eminem's. Now, based on what I consider good / bad, I don't. So I'm going to state what I think, with just as much, if not more assertiveness as I'm expressing my disagreement with your view.

I can't tell you that you prefer Eminem's verse if you don't anymore than you can tell me I prefer Royce's when I don't. That is the only truly subjective element here, and constantly emphasizing it is tedious, it's implied and we get it, we all get that.

Taste is rooted in and fed by objective reasoning. So, the reasons as to why you think Royce's is as good or better, are not random. Taste may at first feel inherently random or personal but it all has a logical basis in some sense. So, as long as you can justify your basis for your taste, you can assert it with as much assurance and confidence as you wish.

I didn't personally insult you, I didn't say you can't prefer Royce's verse - I simply explained, why I do not believe what you believe, to be the case. Deal, with it.

If you don't wish to have the debate or discussion, simply don't respond. Easy.

Oh boy, have I missed these long ass posts.

[buffalo bill]

That's enough, nіggers.

You just received two motherfucking points.

Apparently not. I already had two points. What the fuck does it take to get banned around here?

[BigBangBazinga]

That's enough, nіggers.

You just received two motherfucking points.

Apparently not. I already had two points. What the fuck does it take to get banned around here?

About your location, you're really from Sweden...?

[RayRay33]

I dont understand why he says this line:

lyrical miracle spiritual individual
criminal subliminal in your swimin pool

It makes no sence, does it?

[richard]

I dont understand why he sais this line:

lyrical miracle spiritual individual
criminal subliminal in your swimin pool

It makes no sence, does it?

he is mocking cannabis' style of rapping.

[Beak]

I dont understand why he sais this line:

lyrical miracle spiritual individual
criminal subliminal in your swimin pool

It makes no sence, does it?

I thought it sounded like a subliminal Cannibus diss. Especially the way he said it, it kinda sounded like it to me.

Edit: @richard beat me to it.

[RayRay33]

Thanks guys.

[ayshwariyama]

I say shit that's crazy to crazy people
To make 'em believe I'm crazy so they can relate to me
And maybe believe in Shady so they can be evil baby
I like that!