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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby MikeNUFC » Apr 5th, '12, 01:13

Cheers, that ripped line was class.

Is that Kid Twist rhyme from his battle with Eurgh? I fucking love that battle.
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby Blu » Apr 5th, '12, 01:23

lmao @ "this guy's so fuckin' fat I can't even see his eyes when he smiles"
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 5th, '12, 02:35

MikeNUFC wrote:Is there a video of him battling Marvwon? That's pretty fucking cool, I've always like Marv's style. I remember watching those 8 Mile extras but was probably before I was into battle rap.

Is Justice the Australian guy? Never really properly watched him. Illmac's probably my favourite of all time, especially since he's come back strong as fuck in the last year or so.


Yeah, Illmaculate has a "God mode," and when he's in it, he's pretty much unbeatable. Examples are the two The Saurus battles and the battle with Eurgh at Don't Flop. Nobody else in the world would have beaten The Saurus in that Don't Flop battle...that one was just ridiculous.

Yeah, Justice came over from Australia and won Scribble back in 2005. He just throws the kitchen sink at you. He has occasional premeds that he will recycle like just about everyone else, but he's also a threat to flip everything you say to him. I've only seen him lose one battle in all the videos I've watched of him on Youtube - to Anecdote, when he was still emerging.
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby MikeNUFC » Apr 5th, '12, 02:50

His Sauras battle is ridiculous. The scheme about Sauras using obvious angles then dismissing face jokes was one of the most dead on, potent and well delivered lines in battle rap. And I bet Eurgh was pissed off, produced probably his best perfomance and got absolutely murdered. Then got beat by a casual Sauras. I heard Illmac is going to be back at Don't Flop this year. Not sure who the hell they could really give him that would make it fair. Possibly Cruger, he has some interesting angles.

I'll check him out, 360's the only Aussie battler I've properly got in to (and that blind guy who Illmac faced not long back). I guess I was put off by morons like Decoy.
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 5th, '12, 02:56

*Correction on "Nobody else in the world would have beaten The Saurus in that Don't Flop battle" - that should say "Spin the Mic."
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby Blu » Apr 5th, '12, 03:04

Menzo wrote:Em completely thrashed that broad lmao.

On this microphone I will eat your fuckin' fetus.
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby RKOunion » Apr 6th, '12, 03:48

I like this blog by Kid Twist: http://www.kidtwist.com/blog/let-me-be-clear
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 20th, '12, 08:03

LMAO, Canibus is going to battle Dizaster.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

This is going to be hilarious. Dizaster will be double timing personal insults at him while Canibus raps about nebulae and the periodic table.

Who won this battle?

Canibus dickriders: Bis


Canibus vs. Eminem? Bis

Canibus vs. Gozilla? Bis

Canibus vs. Stephen Hawking in a physics argument? Bis

Canibus vs. Christopher Hitchens in a religious argument? Bis

Canibus vs. George Carlin in anything? Bis

Canibus vs. Charlie Sheen in a war of words? Bis

Canibus vs. Death in a game of chess? Bis

Oh, sorry...got carried away.
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby Elision » Apr 20th, '12, 09:49

EminemInsider wrote:Eminem didn't battle during the generic setup - punchline, generic setup - punchline era. I'm not entirely sure who first introduced that (Eyedea?), but it's a tool that completely changed the game. Now you're expected to come with non-stop personals/relevant disses, or you don't really have a prayer.

And that's in the rare moments where it actually is a freestyle battle.

When it's a written battle, it's a foregone conclusion. 5+ syllable multis every line with non-stop relevant disses.

Eminem could do that format, but he'd have to actually get to know shit about the guys in the Grind Time scene first.
Started responding and realized it was basically going to be this^ reworded.

However, I'd like to add that these days a solid flip is quite exalted. Which requires you to be on your feet, and a quick thinker. For instance, Twist will remove the 2 weakest bars from his shit, and put the flip directed at the opponents previous round where those 2 bars would be. This may seem easier than it is, but you have to really be able to block out your surroundings to think that clearly.

Unfortunately, Em's simply horrible at off-the-top freestyling. Which is necessary at a certain point, unless you're fuckin Khan who's only slipped up once, and still won. But then you have that whole other tier of battle MC's are are almost completely off-the-top. Diz for example. Diz is the pinnacle of battling simply because he can just go for a fuckin hour and tear your soul down with every bar for as long as he wants really.

edit: has dizaster ever lost a battle? :unsure:
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with this nose i don't need a torch up
bustin through, light the industry's porsche up
comin after who didn't support us...
imma change your brain bring
every wicked bit of strange to mainstream
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby MikeNUFC » Apr 20th, '12, 11:17

Yeah the Canibus Dizaster battle is going to be hilarious. Bis' 3 verses are just going to be carbon copy's of any verse he's ever spit - if he even mentions Dizaster I'd be suprised. Absolute masscare, and I don't even like Dizaster that much.

Arsonal Illmac on the same day is going to be the battle of that event.
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby dshady89 » Apr 21st, '12, 01:24

Menzo wrote:Sounds like a smart fella, I'm gonna check his battles.

It'd really be easy to think of material to diss Em about, problem is, Em would probably expect it all.


Check this one out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzhSi9dRPOQ
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 24th, '12, 04:29

MikeNUFC wrote:Yeah the Canibus Dizaster battle is going to be hilarious. Bis' 3 verses are just going to be carbon copy's of any verse he's ever spit - if he even mentions Dizaster I'd be suprised. Absolute masscare, and I don't even like Dizaster that much.

Arsonal Illmac on the same day is going to be the battle of that event.


Yeah, I'm not a Dizaster fan either. He and Hollohan can both go fuck themselves with that aggressive, rapid fire shit as far as I'm concerned.

But it's going to be hilarious watching him shred Canibus with personals while Canibus is rendered powerless. I think it's highly likely he'll mention the Eminem beef, too. That could be priceless.
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby RKOunion » Apr 25th, '12, 11:14

Just watched a Kid Twist battle.

Some pretty creative rhymes:
This nerd is so scrawny I could thumb wrestle his whole body

You're so emo you probably have bracelets made of razor blade
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 26th, '12, 10:12

If you ask me, Kid Twist by himself pretty much beat The Saurus/Illmaculate in WRC07. Too bad DoucheRich dragged him down.

"And you're looking to blow up, but you're lacking the mass appeal/You need to either cut back on the Happy Meals or do more laps on your hamster wheel"

"Look, the smallest guy teamed up with one who's tall and wide/Every photo of you is wallet sized"

"That's cuz your songs are shitty and horrid/The only guys who listen to Saurus/Are Iraqi terrorists during prisoner tortures"

"And I'm pretty sure you don't masturbate to women/You're the only guy who could fail the height limit but still pass the weight restriction"
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Re: Iron Solomon Breaks Down a Hypothetical Battle w/Eminem

Postby MikeNUFC » Apr 26th, '12, 13:23

Amadeo wrote:I need to get into Grind Time, since Eminem is completely uninteresting at this point.

Who would the elite be? Thesaurus, Illmaculate, Dumbfoundead, Kid Twist, ...?


Real Deal, Bender, Rone & Soul Khan are a few others.

I'd start with these and you'll end up finding opponents that you like. Grind Time is pretty much finished now though, King of the Dot (Canada) is where most of America's best battle these days
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