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The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby EminemBase » Dec 4th, '12, 16:32

Obvious, title is obvious.

But, just watching a live performance of it... the writing / flow of it... > hip-hop.
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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby King Lance » Dec 4th, '12, 16:34

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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby Hansen » Dec 4th, '12, 16:36

http://www.youtube.com/embed/2AisONDi4dE

Love how Marilyn Manson is just chilling in the back.
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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby EminemBase » Dec 4th, '12, 16:37

Oh yeah, the production of it > Dre too. Fucking amazing beat. Em needs to produce for himself again.
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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby _Hawk_ » Dec 4th, '12, 16:40

EminemBase wrote:Oh yeah, the production of it > Dre too. Fucking amazing beat. Em needs to produce for himself again.


I don't think you appreciate the impact the Bass Brothers had on Em's production. Name me something he has produced without their influence that has come close the TWIA or Sing for the Moment et al.
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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby EminemBase » Dec 4th, '12, 16:43

_Hawk_ wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Oh yeah, the production of it > Dre too. Fucking amazing beat. Em needs to produce for himself again.


I don't think you appreciate the impact the Bass Brothers had on Em's production. Name me something he has produced without their influence that has come close the TWIA or Sing for the Moment et al.


Oh I do appreciate the influence though.

And, "The Way I Am" was produced without them. It was the first beat he produced completely 'on his own' (from the words of his mouth), and it's credited just to him.

They were the musicians but Em often came up with the melodies. Most rap producers don't play instruments or even come up with their own melodies, they hear things, sample etc. Em has a very particular sound to his production and comes up with melodies. His best stuff mostly is with the Bass Bros, but Dre's best stuff is with other producers, or musicians, it's rarely ever a one man beat.

Point is, he's the driving force in it. And much more so than most other 'producers'.

He also produced "Soldier" on his own. Another awesome beat.

Oh, and "No Apologies". Amazing beat. And "Renegade".
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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby adeem » Dec 4th, '12, 17:08

EminemBase wrote:
_Hawk_ wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Oh yeah, the production of it > Dre too. Fucking amazing beat. Em needs to produce for himself again.


I don't think you appreciate the impact the Bass Brothers had on Em's production. Name me something he has produced without their influence that has come close the TWIA or Sing for the Moment et al.


Oh I do appreciate the influence though.

And, "The Way I Am" was produced without them. It was the first beat he produced completely 'on his own' (from the words of his mouth), and it's credited just to him.

They were the musicians but Em often came up with the melodies. Most rap producers don't play instruments or even come up with their own melodies, they hear things, sample etc. Em has a very particular sound to his production and comes up with melodies. His best stuff mostly is with the Bass Bros, but Dre's best stuff is with other producers, or musicians, it's rarely ever a one man beat.

Point is, he's the driving force in it. And much more so than most other 'producers'.

He also produced "Soldier" on his own. Another awesome beat.

Oh, and "No Apologies". Amazing beat. And "Renegade".


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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby Hansen » Dec 4th, '12, 17:09

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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby EminemBase » Dec 4th, '12, 17:11

adeem wrote:These statements are false and you are a faggot.


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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby Fleka » Dec 4th, '12, 17:34

I would say that this is Eminem`s most underrated song.
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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby _Hawk_ » Dec 4th, '12, 18:04

EminemBase wrote:
_Hawk_ wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Oh yeah, the production of it > Dre too. Fucking amazing beat. Em needs to produce for himself again.


I don't think you appreciate the impact the Bass Brothers had on Em's production. Name me something he has produced without their influence that has come close the TWIA or Sing for the Moment et al.


Oh I do appreciate the influence though.

And, "The Way I Am" was produced without them. It was the first beat he produced completely 'on his own' (from the words of his mouth), and it's credited just to him.

They were the musicians but Em often came up with the melodies. Most rap producers don't play instruments or even come up with their own melodies, they hear things, sample etc. Em has a very particular sound to his production and comes up with melodies. His best stuff mostly is with the Bass Bros, but Dre's best stuff is with other producers, or musicians, it's rarely ever a one man beat.

Point is, he's the driving force in it. And much more so than most other 'producers'.

He also produced "Soldier" on his own. Another awesome beat.

Oh, and "No Apologies". Amazing beat. And "Renegade".


You're wrong, Eminem didn't produce The Way I Am without them. Em himself says: 'I had Jeff [Bass] play the [piano] loop' once he had it worked out. Yes, Eminem went about making this track completely off his own back, but the Bass Brother's still had an influence (they should have been credited with at least assisting Em on tracks like these). Em may have had the beat in his head, but he can't play the piano. He NEEDS someone like Jeff Bass to play his thoughts out in order to make them tangible, which is why I said they deserve recognition.
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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby BILI » Dec 4th, '12, 18:19

_Hawk_ wrote:
EminemBase wrote:
_Hawk_ wrote:
I don't think you appreciate the impact the Bass Brothers had on Em's production. Name me something he has produced without their influence that has come close the TWIA or Sing for the Moment et al.


Oh I do appreciate the influence though.

And, "The Way I Am" was produced without them. It was the first beat he produced completely 'on his own' (from the words of his mouth), and it's credited just to him.

They were the musicians but Em often came up with the melodies. Most rap producers don't play instruments or even come up with their own melodies, they hear things, sample etc. Em has a very particular sound to his production and comes up with melodies. His best stuff mostly is with the Bass Bros, but Dre's best stuff is with other producers, or musicians, it's rarely ever a one man beat.

Point is, he's the driving force in it. And much more so than most other 'producers'.

He also produced "Soldier" on his own. Another awesome beat.

Oh, and "No Apologies". Amazing beat. And "Renegade".


You're wrong, Eminem didn't produce The Way I Am without them. Em himself says: 'I had Jeff [Bass] play the [piano] loop' once he had it worked out. Yes, Eminem went about making this track completely off his own back, but the Bass Brother's still had an influence (they should have been credited with at least assisting Em on tracks like these). Em may have had the beat in his head, but he can't play the piano. He NEEDS someone like Jeff Bass to play his thoughts out in order to make them tangible, which is why I said they deserve recognition.

He never said that tho :o
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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby space_bone » Dec 4th, '12, 18:22

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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby EminemBase » Dec 4th, '12, 18:46

_Hawk_ wrote:You're wrong, Eminem didn't produce The Way I Am without them. Em himself says: 'I had Jeff [Bass] play the [piano] loop' once he had it worked out. Yes, Eminem went about making this track completely off his own back, but the Bass Brother's still had an influence (they should have been credited with at least assisting Em on tracks like these). Em may have had the beat in his head, but he can't play the piano. He NEEDS someone like Jeff Bass to play his thoughts out in order to make them tangible, which is why I said they deserve recognition.


Of course he can't play the piano :confusion:

How is that relevant if he came up with THE MELODY.

Do you think Armani stitches his own suits?

It's about where the idea comes from. That tune, the basis for the music, is from his head. Take other rap producers who get much more acclaim, they don't even do that much.

If Em came up with the loop itself, Jeff is just playing that out. The creativity is from Em, the technical execution is from Jeff. But what's praised/relevant, is the creativity.

He did however say he produced it on his own. I am quoting what HE said, so if he didn't, then Em is wrong. I didn't make that up, so don't tell me.

Many directors don't hold or operate the cameras, or execute the editing - but they're the brains behind the directions, the ideas aka the source of the creativity.

ALL producers have assistance, as almost no rap producers play instruments or are actual musicians. But they're the controllers of the direction, they make the beat. But almost none make them on their own, they need people for different tasks - Dr. Dre often gets credited when all he does is let studio musicians come up with directions independently and then focuses in when he hears something. Of all the producers who get too much credit, I think Em is the most deserving of the credit he does get, since very few come up with original melodies and arrange things like he does. Even Luis Resto who helped produce "Lose Yourself" said "Em has symphonies in his head".

They deserve recognition yes, and they often get it. People know Eminem is not an instrumentalist, but if the melody is ALL from him, he deserves nearly all the credit. He didn't get all the credit on "Lose Yourself" for example, Jeff is credited with that bass line.

If the melody is from Em, then no they didn't have an influence, they're simply responding to what he's thinking; playing out what is entirely in HIS head.
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Re: The Way I Am, is Incredible.

Postby SajN » Dec 4th, '12, 18:49

I remember reading that Eminem said that he was in a plane, and had this piano loop in his head replaying over and over again, so then he went to one of the Bass brothers and hummed it for them, so they could play it on the piano.
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