Relapse is not only one of Em's best albums but…

[EminemBase]

No shit.

Just wish more realized it at the time so he didn't trash R2. If it ended at "Deja Vu" it would be SUCH A top to bottom classic for me, I just can never forget them last few songs though.

[Kill You]

Glad you established this since I didn't already know it.

It's one of his most addicting to listen to as well.

[IcedSlim Shady]

My only problems with Relapse are Beautiful, for all of EminemBase's reasoning, and Crack A Bottle. I liked CaB when it released, but to have it appear on Relapse among all these amazing songs to me just...Ehhh.

In my opinion, those songs fit good. It's like a story..for 15 tracks he is " on drugs" and talks about drugs in general..in Deja vu, track 16 he overdosed..then he recovered himself from drugs and started to feel good. He did track 17, beautiful, with different voice,beat, no more accents. All tracks after deja vu are different from the rest of the album. That is when relapse 2 was supposed to start..its like the last 3 track are a bridge to relapse 2..crack a bottle is also different , and the last song is a relapse 2 song. You have to think that relapse was supposed to be in 2 albums..it's like a big story, tracks 17,18,19,20 are in my opinion the opening tracks to relapse 2,so these 3 songs fit good with the album..
Sorry for my bad english

[Kill You]

I still can't decide what I like more, Relapse or Recovery, at this point. If Relapse didn't have We Made You and Crack A Bottle I'd say it's better. To me, the highs on Relapse are higher than those on Recovery, but the lows are lower. To me.

I'm the same way. I can't really decide which one I prefer. I like both for different reasons and often listen to which one I want to based on my mood. Relapse is better as a whole album, I feel, but Recovery has better songs and more songs that you can actually sit down and listen to and enjoy.

[Solace]

My only problems with Relapse are Beautiful, for all of EminemBase's reasoning, and Crack A Bottle. I liked CaB when it released, but to have it appear on Relapse among all these amazing songs to me just...Ehhh.

In my opinion, those songs fit good. It's like a story..for 15 tracks he is " on drugs" and talks about drugs in general..in Deja vu, track 16 he overdosed..then he recovered himself from drugs and started to feel good. He did track 17, beautiful, with different voice,beat, no more accents. All tracks after deja vu are different from the rest of the album. That is when relapse 2 was supposed to start..its like the last 3 track are a bridge to relapse 2..crack a bottle is also different , and the last song is a relapse 2 song. You have to think that relapse was supposed to be in 2 albums..it's like a big story, tracks 17,18,19,20 are in my opinion the opening tracks to relapse 2,so these 3 songs fit good with the album..
Sorry for my bad english

You're basically saying because they're different they fit. If I were to throw Recovery songs on Relapse after Deja Vu one could argue the same thing. And I didn't even say they didn't fit and therefore shouldn't be on the album (though that's the case with Beautiful). Crack A Bottle shouldn't have been on the album because it is no where near as good as any of the songs before it. The only plausible reason for its presence is because it did great on the radio.

Ended on "Deja Vu".

Just listened right the way through again and the album flows PERFECTLY, every track is fucking banging and enjoyable as hell, and the skits / story / concept all work... even where right after "Must be the Ganja" he theoretically passes out after being at the height of his 'drug daze' and journeying through his manic, psychotic, wacky, insane, murderous relapse adventure...

And, "Deja Vu" is him out of that, woken up and reflecting, and so it makes sense for him to be out of character there and would have been perfect to end on...

Because it was supposed to be two albums anyway, so if he had ended there - no "Beautiful", "Crack a Bottle" or "Underground", or closing skit, but just ended on that song with perhaps a little added outro, and then Relapse 2 picks up where that leaves off, with essentially a second relapse, that is ten times more extreme, crazy and threatening... the sequel would have made perfect sense, would have been climactic and, yeah, it would have been perfect to end no.1 there.

If it ends there, it's very very close to a classic to me. Shitty extra tracks ruin it. Tagged right on the end as well, after the rest flows and works SO well. Very annoying.

That flows like a real piece of work to me, with every song placed and intended to do something at a certain point, and every single song I think feels like it should be there, sonically / stylistically...

So I don't mind every song not being amazing, but on like Relapse, when you have "Beautiful", just fucks up the flow / takes me out of 'the movie' in the same way having say... a totally off-kilter, random out-of-tone scene in a movie would. Like if you had a drama scene in a horror movie, that just felt totally weird and out of place, it would ruin the experience as a whole for me...

I just want it to be totally consistent. If Relapse had ended at "Deja Vu" for me, it'd be a classic. Because man, that album just flows so beautifully and every track sounds like one batch, and it hits different points like The Eminem Show. And it seems a bit ridiculous to say it's not a classic because of a few added tracks, when I could just ignore them, but, I dunno... I just can't seem to get past them in my mind when I think back to the album. Because I always remember them.

Etc, etc.

[slimsoxshady]

I don't think Dre even produced most those tracks himself, sadly

[SoldierShady]

i still think it's his 2nd worst album just cuz it's too up and down for me
the highs are really high with SWA, Deja Vu, SS&D, Ganja, Beautiful, Hello
but the lows are just awfully low for me with WMY, Crack a Bottle, 3am, Old Times Sake, Bagpipes

album could have been a classic if those tracks werent on there and Elevator, Music Box, and Forever replaced em

So...Beautiful is a high and 3am is a low on the album? Are you actually totes McGoats forealz-yo smoking crushed corn flakes right now? Don't fuck with my brain, son. I'm telling you.

[Snakebeast]

3 years later they'll go back and re-rate it.

You're late to the party.

So on June 10th, we'll start seeing more love for Recovery? I'm not seeing it....

[EminemBase]

i still think it's his 2nd worst album just cuz it's too up and down for me
the highs are really high with SWA, Deja Vu, SS&D, Ganja, Beautiful, Hello
but the lows are just awfully low for me with WMY, Crack a Bottle, 3am, Old Times Sake, Bagpipes

album could have been a classic if those tracks werent on there and Elevator, Music Box, and Forever replaced em

Nah the entire album is rocket fuel except for "Beautiful", "Crack a Bottle" and "Underground". None of them need to be there. If it ends at "Deja Vu", it's a classic. It could have then faded out, then 'Relapse 2' begins, his second relapse (which then results in him snapping in to a recovery).

[Alex2012]

i'm lucky i always said it was my favorite album with refill of course.

But i can understand people taste change especially when they are young.

Underground is one of my favorite song, SWA, Music Box, My Darling (didn't like this song first time, now i do), Déjà Vu....., Beautiful is a decent song but weird in that album.

[GreenHatOrangeBill]

Relapse is the best album for sleeping to.

You listen and focus on all the multies, the hypnotic beats and bam! You're asleep until Must Be the Ganja's snares wake you the f up. Bonus points if you wake up during "Beautiful" and feel at peace with the world

[Aslawik]

Do you guys just hate like to hate on popular mainstreams opinion as beautiful was the concensu choice for the best song? Beautiful was far and away the best song on the album and possibly an all time top 10.. CWYWF, dejavu, and elevator, and music box off of refill were all really good too though.