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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby BlueberryWun » May 18th, '13, 22:51

Almost everyone i know outside the internet thinks 808's were really terrible
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby Tash8 » May 18th, '13, 22:55

PAINKILLƎR wrote:You can just stay quiet for starters and not get your panties in a bunch. Grow a pair.


And there you go, further proving my point that you can't argue with these fools. If you resort to insults when people disagree with you, you will find it one tough life to live my dude.

BlueberryWun wrote:Almost everyone i know outside the internet thinks 808's were really terrible


Yeah but you gotta understand that when deciding whether an album is good or bad, worldwide perception of the album no longer matters. Only his own thoughts and opinions matter.

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Wow. And just like that, 2 of the 3 people I mention in my post prove the exact point I was making.

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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby PAINKILLƎR » May 18th, '13, 22:56

Lmao you're delusional, like if you didn't throw any insults. Get over it.
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby SG. » May 18th, '13, 22:57

Tash, I don't want to change your mind, I was being abrasive. You're entitled to your opinion.

That said, it's not just Em stans or Ye stans that are like that. All fanboys are like that. And saying "When you have people like SG" when that's the person you're responding to is a bit rude. :happy:
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby Trimss » May 18th, '13, 22:57

Tash8 wrote:Yeah but you gotta understand that when deciding whether an album is good or bad, worldwide perception of the album no longer matters. Only his own thoughts and opinions matter.


Dude. 808 was well received.. :unsure:

http://www.metacritic.com/music/808s-he ... kanye-west

75% based on 36 critics review. How is that bad?
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby Tash8 » May 18th, '13, 23:14

PAINKILLƎR wrote:Lmao you're delusional, like if you didn't throw any insults. Get over it.


Not initially. I only quoted Trimms initially, and I never insulted him (unless you consider "You're Joking" an insult, which I do not). Not till after you replied with your nonsense did I stop debating and began insulting you. I realized right away you were never gonna debate me, you were just gonna post you're opinion over and over with a different insult here and there. I've been here long enough to spot people like this. One thing I should have done earlier is to stop responding to you. That was my mistake, I realize this now and I'm done responding to you.

SG. wrote:Tash, I don't want to change your mind, I was being abrasive. You're entitled to your opinion.

That said, it's not just Em stans or Ye stans that are like that. All fanboys are like that. And saying "When you have people like SG" when that's the person you're responding to is a bit rude. :happy:


I agree, it's not just Em stans or Ye stans, but those two groups take it to a whole new level. Yes it was rude to point you out like that, but would you not say its just as rude to say "Fuck Ya'll, 808s is actually my favourite Kanye album" just because I or anyone else disagrees with you?

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Tash8 wrote:Yeah but you gotta understand that when deciding whether an album is good or bad, worldwide perception of the album no longer matters. Only his own thoughts and opinions matter.


Dude. 808 was well received.. :unsure:

http://www.metacritic.com/music/808s-he ... kanye-west

75% based on 36 critics review. How is that bad?


Ok first of all, I hate metacritic cause that's the first things a Kanye fan brings up. Like I give a shit. Its notorious that music critics hate rap and Kanye was the first rapper (maybe second to only eminem) that was able to bridge the gap between rap and other genres.

Now, Go back and reread my first post that was directed straight to you. Actually don't I'll post it for you.

tash8 wrote:Let's quit this "kanye has never had a bad album" nonsense right now. 808 was a bad album compared to Kanye standards. Therefore Kanye had a bad album.


and Now, let's take a look at your precious metacritic scores:

College Drop out: 87
Late Registration: 85
Graduation: 79
808s: 75
MBTDF: 94

Okay, so his top 4 albums he averages 86.25 in the metacritic score. His worst album is a 75. So please, please tell me what was wrong with my statement? How am I wrong in saying that Kanye has had a bad album and that was 808s and Heartbreak?
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby PAINKILLƎR » May 18th, '13, 23:19

Took you long enough to make that decision? Wow your slow, I would've made an arguement but it seemed that you wanted clown around. Next time take a second and think about what you're about to say before you say it cuz itll come back a smack you across the face.
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby Trimss » May 18th, '13, 23:19

Yeah, 808's rating is a little lower than his other albums. But do you really think 75% is a bad rating? Of course, it's not as good as his others album and I agree with that.

HOWEVER, that doesn't make it a bad album. It's like when you compare Em's first three albums. The three of them are really great, but MMLP is considered as being the best one. Do you know what I mean? I'm not even a Kanye stan by the way.. Just throwing this out there.

A bad album is like.. not an album with a lower score than yours, but an album that's actually considered as wack.
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby SG. » May 18th, '13, 23:21

It wasn't an attack on you, it was just a general statement, joking around. It's hard to make that come across when it's simply text on a screen.
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby King Lance » May 18th, '13, 23:28

Tash8 wrote:
Trimss wrote:
Tash8 wrote:Yeah but you gotta understand that when deciding whether an album is good or bad, worldwide perception of the album no longer matters. Only his own thoughts and opinions matter.


Dude. 808 was well received.. :unsure:

http://www.metacritic.com/music/808s-he ... kanye-west

75% based on 36 critics review. How is that bad?


Ok first of all, I hate metacritic cause that's the first things a Kanye fan brings up. Like I give a shit. Its notorious that music critics hate rap and Kanye was the first rapper (maybe second to only eminem) that was able to bridge the gap between rap and other genres.



A lot of rappers have critical acclaimed albums tbh > the rappers from the 90's, Lupe Fiasco, Kendrick Lamar, Madvillain, Kanye West, Outkast, Ghostface Killah,...
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby Tash8 » May 18th, '13, 23:30

Trimss wrote:Yeah, 808's rating is a little lower than his other albums. But do you really think 75% is a bad rating? Of course, it's not as good as his others album and I agree with that.


No I don't think it's a bad rating, but I've only said it's bad against his standard and that is it. Every context I have used bad it has been relative to his other albums.
I never said it's a bad album period. I've said I like some songs on 808s. You seem to agree with that, so I think we're on the same page here, but...

HOWEVER, that doesn't make it a bad album. It's like when you compare Em's first three albums. The three of them are really great, but MMLP is considered as being the best one. Do you know what I mean? I'm not even a Kanye stan by the way.. Just throwing this out there.


I do know what you mean, I just don't think you believe what you mean. Let me tell you why before you get upset. All I gotta do is re-quote what I've already stated.

Just cause I'm stating my opinion does not mean I'm hating, I do like some songs on 808, the same way I like some songs on Encore. That doesn't change that the overall album's quality is bad (still talking in relative terms here.) Or am i not allowed to claim that opinion without being called a hater? Should I go the Trimms route and just say this?

Trimms wrote:Shut up mate, Encore is trash. It's fucking trash get over it. Just like Bizarre is fucking trash, except Encore is still better than Bizarre while being fucking shitty.

That's the definition of 'haters gon hate,' and I never acted like that. So Don't get it twisted just cause I disagree with your opinion.


I made the assertion that 808s is bad in the same way that Encore is bad. In comparison to the standards Eminem and Kanye set with prior albums, 808s and Encore were not as good. I didn't hate on 808s to make my point. I used my personal opinion to make some very valid points, and then I further proved my point with metacritic scores.
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby Tash8 » May 18th, '13, 23:34

Lance5 wrote:Critics love a lot of rappers tbh


A rapper has not won a Grammy for Best Album of the Year. Even when its deserved like MMLP or MBDTF. Critics love some rappers, but they've never identified with rap like they do with Rock or Pop. Kanye has bridged that game a little bit, but still not completely.

You editted your post, but i still think this applies.

SG. wrote:It wasn't an attack on you, it was just a general statement, joking around. It's hard to make that come across when it's simply text on a screen.


It was not an attack on me, it was an attack on people who disagreed with you. I insulted you by pointing you out specifically, and you insulted and pointed out a group of people. Let's stop being hypocrites here. You and I did the same thing and we were both wrong.
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby SG. » May 18th, '13, 23:37

Alright, cool. We cool? Cool.
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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby BigBoss » May 19th, '13, 00:10

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Re: Kanye West - Preview of "New Slave"

Postby Almostlity » May 19th, '13, 00:19

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