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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby King Lance » Jul 4th, '13, 17:56

Aone10 wrote:
Lance5 wrote:Anthony F. :flutter:


Another hipster....

I tend to agree with him on some things, but he tends to lean towards the pitchfork crowd. :n:


I always agree with Anthony's reviews :flutter:

he gonna give this album a decent 5 or a light 6 :shifty:
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby King Lance » Jul 4th, '13, 17:58

Guardian writer slams the hell out of Magna Carta :flutter:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicbl ... rst-listen

Menzo wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't like Frank Ocean's singing? Actually, I hate it.


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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby fifflaren » Jul 4th, '13, 18:03

Lance5 wrote:
Menzo wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't like Frank Ocean's singing? Actually, I hate it.


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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby *ShadyHouse* » Jul 4th, '13, 18:04

Eh it's not great but not terrible. Hell of a lot better than his other recent albums. Doesn't compare to Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, or The Black Album.
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby King Lance » Jul 4th, '13, 18:06

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He isn't a "bad" singer, but I just can't stand it. Don't see the hype and I just don't like it. I remember trying to listen to nostalgia, ULTRA when it first came out and just slammed my laptop shut. Smashed the screen, had to get a new one.




to each his own I guess, I just wanted to post that goat gif :sweating:
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby King Lance » Jul 4th, '13, 18:32

bigray wrote:Dont care about Frank Ocean either tbh



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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby slimsoxshady » Jul 4th, '13, 18:48

^ that makes perfect sense...so people go and actually "buy" higher quality if they care or don't know how to get it for free
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby Mr Change » Jul 4th, '13, 19:01

Fixing to delve into this album for the first time!

Man J.T. is a great singer :o
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby Rattle1 » Jul 4th, '13, 19:32

These mediocre albums benefit to the new school rappers :worship:

All these negative comments on the web, ahah Nas is eating today.
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Jul 4th, '13, 19:51

Am I the only one who couldn't get into Hov's rapping? it sounded like he was borrowing that new school flow, you know that ones that rappers like 2 chainz and montana use. Some tracks Jay went in, and others not so much. I found it a bit disappointing tbh. I'm still gonna give a couple more listens before I pass my final judgement.
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Jul 4th, '13, 20:01

Aone10 wrote:
PAINKILLƎR wrote:Am I the only one who couldn't get into Hov's rapping? it sounded like he was borrowing that new school flow, you know that ones that rappers like 2 chainz and montana use. Some tracks Jay went in, and others not so much. I found it a bit disappointing tbh. I'm still gonna give a couple more listens before I pass my final judgement.


He did that "new school" flow on like 3 songs out of the 16....

He went vintage Jay on some of them and used the flow he's been using since American Gangster on the rest.

Great, now this is going to turn into a Nas vs. Jay thread :facepalm2

I felt like the first half of the album was weak and it wasn't until the second half that it really started picking up for me. What do you think? I've given it only 3 listens, one was like a midnight lol so that one doesn't count much. Another listen when I woke up, and one after breakfast. I like the album but I still see some flaws. I'm not done evaluating the album, I just want to know if anybody else feels the same or has something interesting to say.
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Jul 4th, '13, 20:29

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I thought it started off ok as well. Holy Grail and Picasso Baby are amazing songs and even Tom Ford fits nice there, but Fuckwitme is just terrible and really slows the momentum down on the album. The middle of the album is solid and then Heaven comes in, which is probably my favorite track on the album.

The last half of the album is definitely the strongest (although Beach is Better is a wtf moment, that should've been longer).

This album has a 10/10 inside of it, unfortunately there were too many fillers that prevent it from being that. Still a very solid album in my book and the perfect album for Jay to make at 43.

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. A lot of those filler tracks just kill the vibe for me. I still feel some of the lyrics are subpar though. I guess I was expecting to much, I should probably going to my next listen with a different state of mind.
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Jul 4th, '13, 20:44

Aone10 wrote:
PAINKILLƎR wrote:
Aone10 wrote:
I thought it started off ok as well. Holy Grail and Picasso Baby are amazing songs and even Tom Ford fits nice there, but Fuckwitme is just terrible and really slows the momentum down on the album. The middle of the album is solid and then Heaven comes in, which is probably my favorite track on the album.

The last half of the album is definitely the strongest (although Beach is Better is a wtf moment, that should've been longer).

This album has a 10/10 inside of it, unfortunately there were too many fillers that prevent it from being that. Still a very solid album in my book and the perfect album for Jay to make at 43.

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. A lot of those filler tracks just kill the vibe for me. I still feel some of the lyrics are subpar though. I guess I was expecting to much, I should probably going to my next listen with a different state of mind.


I got what I was expecting tbh.

After you listen to it again, try this....

1.Holy Grail
2.Picasso Baby
3.Tom Ford
4.Open Letter
5.F.U.T.W
6.BBC
7.Versus
8.Oceans
9.Somewhere in America
10.Heaven
10.Part II
11.Crown
12.Jay-Z Blue
13.La Familia
14.Nickels & Dimes

This flows much better imo and would've made it a strong 9.5

Word I'll give this a shot after my next listen.
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby OMEGA » Jul 4th, '13, 20:45

Haven't listened to it yet but why is everyone hating it? If it's a case of cool beats with awful lyrics, well, that has been Jay-Z shit for a while.
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Re: JAY Z - Magna Carta… Holy Grail (EARLY RELEASE)

Postby OMEGA » Jul 4th, '13, 20:45

Haven't listened to it yet but why is everyone hating it? If it's a case of cool beats with awful lyrics, well, that has been Jay-Z shit for a while.
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