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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Notalius » Aug 31st, '13, 06:13

4Corners wrote:
Notalius wrote:Relapse is better in every aspect. It's not just stans saying that but casual Hip hop fans too. And if you don't agree I'll have to break it down why and then my friend it'll be my first classic on here ~ Or I'm just gonna call embase to prove you wrong.


Don't know what kind of real hip hop heads you hang with, most Em fans aren't even into hip hop all that much, but nearly anyone in the hip hop community wasn't feeling Relapse. If it didn't have accents, the
album would be 100x better.


I'm not talking about wich fans are into it or not, I'm talking about comparing Relapse to Recovery. Like I said 90% will say Relapse and I can bet on that.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby EmFan2013 » Aug 31st, '13, 06:14

can you guys discuss this relapse and recovery discussion section on another thread, please.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Satan » Aug 31st, '13, 06:14

But to ALSO be fair, Recovery had more cringeworthy lines than Relapse. For every bad Relapse line, there are three horrible punchlines on Recovery. Also, Relapse doesn't fail as hard at trying to rhyme, though sometimes it comes across are pretty forced (JABBA THE HUTT BEDDY BYE BYE BEDDY BYE BYE IT'S TIME TO DIE DIE).
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Whitefox » Aug 31st, '13, 06:15

4Corners wrote:
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4Corners wrote:And We Made You didn't have some cringe worthy lyrics???

I've finally realized after joining an Eminem stan site, why people in hip hop hate on stans so much.


We Made You wasnt serious and emotional song though.


Right, he had nothing serious on Relapse, aside from Deja Vu and Beauitful. Beautiful was a great track, but theres loads of stans on here saying it sucked.

Stans have got to be the WORST hip hop fans. I'm as big of an Em fan as the next guy, but to defend some of the shit that was Relapse, c'mon. Eminem himself would probably sit down and tell you it was his worst album.


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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby 4Corners » Aug 31st, '13, 06:15

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4Corners wrote:Recovery's only problem was the style of production on the album, IMO. He fell to in love with that DJ Khalil/Boi-1Da style on the album.

You're forgetting the hooks. They were mostly terrible.
The only tracks where I was feeling the production were On Fire, Seduction, Session One, Ridaz, Untitled. Lyrically though Recovery was dope. His flow was on point and he dropped the accents. Em was more apologetic about Relapse than Encore.

Flow was on point, I'll give you that. Dropped the accents, great. However, you're forgetting the fact that Em suddenly forgot how to rhyme sometimes (Cinderella Man) or rhymed too much and ended up with a shit of a song (Won't Back Down).
Oh, and let us not forget the main negative. Metaphors, similes, and wordplay. Biggest example of this is Won't Back Down, which is just a gigantic mess of random shit. Recovery sucked DICK in this aspect.
Both Encore and Relapse had garbage tracks, both had some dope tracks too. I rate those albums fairly similar, I'm sorry but I honestly believe those are his two worst and he'd probably tell you the same thing. Even still, I rate them as B-/B albums. It's just Em hasn't put it all together since Eminem Show and 8 Mile. Hopefully he can on MMLP2, though I'm skeptical after Berzerk. And I pray to god Survival is a bonus or doesn't make the final cut at all. The verses are solid and pretty good, but the chorus ruins the whole thing, and it's another weak Khalil beat.

Lol no. How the fuck are they on the same level? Aside from garbage tracks ie. Beautiful and Underground, the whole album fit together fine. Great. Fantastic. Tell me EXACTLY what sucked about Relapse besides the accents (which weren't even that fucking annoying).
Berzerk is alright, nothing to write mother about though. The hook is catchy, for sure. I like the hook. His first verse is pretty solid, though it starts off way better than it finishes. The 2nd verse starts off good, than it goes all of the place, not terribly but yeah. The 3rd started off good too, has it's moments, but he ruins it with that whack toe jam line. Overall, Berzerk is somewhere between his best lead singles, My Name Is/Real Slim Shady/Without Me and his worst, We Made You/Just Lose It/My Band (d12). I'd rate it 7/10 probably.

2nd verse is intentionally bad. Go to Rapgenius to read the lyrics, you'll appreciate it a fuckload more. Yeah, they reach a bit with some of the explanations, but it's still good.


I know it was intentionally bad, I like how he was making fun of stuff, but it was still all over the place. Em used to make fun of people and rhyme like a real lyricist on it. Berzerk is alright, nothing to make noise about though. It'll be a big hit though, thanks the the hook.

The funny thing is Beautiful and Underground are probably two of the better tracks on Relapse. A lot of stuff had some good lines here and there, solid wordplay, but Em felt tired as a whole on Relapse. I don't know. I felt he lacked luster for the most part.

I'll take Never Enough, Yellow Brick Road, Like Toy Soldiers, Mosh, Mockingbird over 3AM, Same Song and Dance, Old Times Sake, Medicine Ball, must be the Ganja, etc.

But they equal out to me because Big Weenie, My First Single, Ass LIke That were probably his worst songs ever.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby UofLCard » Aug 31st, '13, 06:16

-GoBerzerk- wrote:The only good tracks on Recovery were made for Relapse 2, honestly. CWB, On Fire, Untitled, Almost Famous, Session One, Ridaz, So Bad, etc.


Except for So Bad (because of its chorus), I don't care for any of those.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Notalius » Aug 31st, '13, 06:17

EmFan2013 wrote:can you guys discuss this relapse and recovery discussion section on another thread, please.


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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Satan » Aug 31st, '13, 06:17

Stay Wide Awake's mediocre lyrics are immedientally saved by Eminem's godly flow, the beat, the rhyming, and the chorus. Cinderella Man has distorted awful lyrics (FUK YEH THA STAYKS AH HIGH) and a mediocre flow.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby 4Corners » Aug 31st, '13, 06:18

Fuck my last CD, that shits in my trash

Perhaps I ran them accents into the ground
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Whitefox » Aug 31st, '13, 06:19

4Corners wrote:Fuck my last CD, that shits in my trash

Perhaps I ran them accents into the ground


This was on Not Afraid. The lyrics I post were on The Reunion, which came out after Recovery.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Notalius » Aug 31st, '13, 06:19

4Corners wrote:Fuck my last CD, that shits in my trash

Perhaps I ran them accents into the ground


The only reason he did that was because he wanted to get the fans back on his side.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Satan » Aug 31st, '13, 06:20

4Corners wrote:Fuck my last CD, that shits in my trash

Perhaps I ran them accents into the ground

He also said that he would never beef again or start drama and then insulted a bunch of people on BME:HTS and Berzerk. What's your point?
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby 4Corners » Aug 31st, '13, 06:20

No shit.....he was clowning on The Reunion about how he had used the accents, he did the same on I'm On Everything. He knows the accents were probably the worst thing he ever started doing in his career.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Notalius » Aug 31st, '13, 06:21

4Corners wrote:No shit.....he was clowning on The Reunion about how he had used the accents, he did the same on I'm On Everything. He knows the accents were probably the worst thing he ever started doing in his career.


He did accents since 97 so where's your point ?
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Satan » Aug 31st, '13, 06:22

4Corners wrote:the accents were probably the worst thing he ever started doing in his career.

That's impossible when his voice on Ballin' Uncontrollably and Touchdown were way worse than any accent.
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