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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby Dextro » Nov 21st, '14, 07:45

Fine Line - best on the cd.
I don't like SHADYXV song. I don't know why everybody crazy about it.
I feel like any Eminem songs on compilation could easily fit on mmlp2
the lines are starting to get blurry
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion (First Impressions Merged)

Postby Cube23 » Nov 21st, '14, 07:45

Revolutionary wrote:The thing I don't understand is, if you guys don't like what you've heard from Em then why are you still anticipating his projects?
He gave us Relapse, Recovery, H:TS, MMLP2 and now Shady XV. He's clearly different, he's not going to sound like whatever you think he should sound like.

You can't deal with that? Just move on, find another artist that you'd slit your wrist for. You think you're giving constructive opinions but it's basically been the same since he came back, it's fuckin' pathetic. But hey, you'll never be successful enough to be happy with yourselves so I get why you stay on forums 24/7 just to say the same thing over and over again. Clap for 'em, ladies and gentlemen.


It's not as black and white as this. I love everything about Relapse. It's my favorite Eminem album, although I know it isn't his absolute best. He was dope between that and Recovery. And then he was garbage for Recovery up until Hell: The Sequel and he was okay. Started getting a choppy flow. MMLP2 had some decent songs but failed with some beats, hooks, inconsistencies. This album just has some pretty bad flows on it, although I think it's decent on a Hell: The Sequel level. The thing is that each album he has has highlights and lowlights. When you invested a lot of care and love towards an artist for like ten years, you still look forward to their new material, especially when you don't know what to expect at all with the sound... Such is the case with Eminem. His new stuff has things I praise and things I think are horrible. I'll never stop caring about his material, but I will be fair when judging his stuff. That's just where a lot of people fall.
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby nicknem » Nov 21st, '14, 07:52

I really appreciate a lot of Eminem's music since Relapse.

However, I fell it might be a lot better if he didn't try to make it so complicated all the time. By trying too hard and making his sound complex I think he hurts it.

I've listened to Relapse, Recovery, HTS, MMLP2 a million times. I love these albums. It's just not as good, not as fresh, not as funny, not as powerful, not as sad or happy, catchy and entertaining as it used to be, that's all. So I listen to every new project with the hope of catching some of that "magic trapped in a bottle", and sometimes it happens.

Vegas brought back some of that magic for me, today. Some of that crazyness too.

But come on, even the Lose Yourself demo is better than every Shady XV song...

As I already said, I'm stating the obvious. I'm not complaining, I'm really glad to be able to hear new Eminem regularly. But his flow is not as good, and his songs, overall, are not as good as they used to be.
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby Zarra » Nov 21st, '14, 07:55

nicknem wrote:I really appreciate a lot of Eminem's music since Relapse.

However, I fell it might be a lot better if he didn't try to make it so complicated all the time. By trying too hard and making his sound complex I think he hurts it.

I've listened to Relapse, Recovery, HTS, MMLP2 a million times. I love these albums. It's just not as good, not as fresh, not as funny, not as powerful, not as sad or happy, catchy and entertaining as it used to be, that's all. So I listen to every new project with the hope of catching some of that "magic trapped in a bottle", and sometimes it happens.

Vegas brought back some of that magic for me, today. Some of that crazyness too.

But come on, even the Lose Yourself demo is better than every Shady XV song...

As I already said, I'm stating the obvious.
I'm not complaining, I'm really glad to be able to hear new Eminem regularly. But his flow is not as good, and his songs, overall, are not as good as they used to be.


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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby slims » Nov 21st, '14, 07:59

The album is good, don't get me wrong but I only have two favorite songs.
Does that make me a bad stan?
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion (First Impressions Merged)

Postby nicknem » Nov 21st, '14, 08:01

Cube23 wrote:
Revolutionary wrote:The thing I don't understand is, if you guys don't like what you've heard from Em then why are you still anticipating his projects?
He gave us Relapse, Recovery, H:TS, MMLP2 and now Shady XV. He's clearly different, he's not going to sound like whatever you think he should sound like.

You can't deal with that? Just move on, find another artist that you'd slit your wrist for. You think you're giving constructive opinions but it's basically been the same since he came back, it's fuckin' pathetic. But hey, you'll never be successful enough to be happy with yourselves so I get why you stay on forums 24/7 just to say the same thing over and over again. Clap for 'em, ladies and gentlemen.


It's not as black and white as this. I love everything about Relapse. It's my favorite Eminem album, although I know it isn't his absolute best. He was dope between that and Recovery. And then he was garbage for Recovery up until Hell: The Sequel and he was okay. Started getting a choppy flow. MMLP2 had some decent songs but failed with some beats, hooks, inconsistencies. This album just has some pretty bad flows on it, although I think it's decent on a Hell: The Sequel level. The thing is that each album he has has highlights and lowlights. When you invested a lot of care and love towards an artist for like ten years, you still look forward to their new material, especially when you don't know what to expect at all with the sound... Such is the case with Eminem. His new stuff has things I praise and things I think are horrible. I'll never stop caring about his material, but I will be fair when judging his stuff. That's just where a lot of people fall.


:y: Exactly. That's not black and white.

Let's take this new album.
1.Shady XV? Don't really like the flow, the same as on So Far, not a fan of the beat, the voices on the beat are too strong and sometimes I can't even hear what he says. Lyrics are not that interesting except for some references to older stuff. Flow doesn't fit well on the beat.
2.PK: great song but Em's flow doesn't fit on the beat again, it's not a bad verse but it's not great either.
3: Die Alone: great until this HORRIBLE AWFUL hook. Again the beat is weird and too bad Em's verses are a bit short. Could have been a great song.
4: Vegas. Nothing to say. Innovative, fun, well written, good flow. Give us more like this.
^: Guts Over Fear: I frankly love it except for the "Guuuuuts ooooveeeer feaaaar" part. The flow is good and steady, great lyrics and he tells an interesting story in this one.
9: Fine Line: great, great. Good flow even if some weird shouting moments, good beat, ok hook, interesting theme and lyrics.
10: twisted: Weird but ok, I won't listen to it a lot.
11: Right for Me: Unlistenable to me. I understand why a lot of you love it but for me it's just not a song. he might as well have done it a-capella if he wanted to do a freestyle.
12: DvE: Finally like his verse but still, a lot of "too-fast and too complicated" rapping

So overall for me it has 3 very good songs, some average and one or two very bad... Won't change the fact that I'm still a fan but I cant pretend like everything is awesome when it's not.
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby nicknem » Nov 21st, '14, 08:03

Revolutionary wrote:And that is absolutely fine. I'm talking about the people that have been repeating themselves, particularly the SL members. They're saying the same shit on every thread as if they're trying to change other people's opinions.

For me, I just embraced the change and I personally believe MMLP2 has songs that are way better than some shit on TES/SSLP.
Just because I think that's true doesn't mean i'm a stan trying to convince myself that shit is dope. I hated Recovery and I don't listen to H:TS but Relapse and MMLP2 are amazing projects to me and Relapse is the best produced album if we're being honest.

I'm just saying if you have a complaint, there's no need to say that shit on almost every page.


Relapse is like Wine.

And you're right about the production: BRING BACK DR DRE! Relapse has an incredible sound except for two or three forgettable for me (Medicine Ball and Old Time's Sake for example)
But the beats on Hello, Same Song and Dance, Stay Wide Awake, Crack a Bottle are pure genius.

Even if he might not be relevant anymore... :( Time goes on, that's so sad
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby JeunePadawan » Nov 21st, '14, 08:14

When u take the time to think about it lol... Slim Shady is 42 yrs old lmao

so the guy is a fucking beast... living legend :worship:

Like I said his flow is strange sometimes but honestly the album is very dope man

Shady XV - love it
Psychopath Killer - classic?
Die Alone - i like that
Vegas - DOPE
Fine Line - DOPE
Right For Me - SICK

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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby MIND » Nov 21st, '14, 08:16

So this is probably obvious, but I'm new... Does anyone have a link to Detroit vs. Everybody? I thought it was going to be on the album so I didn't download it when I had the chance.

Also The Cxvpher?

Thanks for the help.
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby JeunePadawan » Nov 21st, '14, 08:18

MIND wrote:So this is probably obvious, but I'm new... Does anyone have a link to Detroit vs. Everybody? I thought it was going to be on the album so I didn't download it when I had the chance.

Also The Cxvpher?

Thanks for the help.


do u need Lose Yourself demo too ? I guess i could upload it if u dont find a link soon

anywayss im uploading right now... cypher + cypher (em part only) + D vs evrybody + LY demo
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby Zarra » Nov 21st, '14, 08:26

JeunePadawan wrote:When u take the time to think about it lol... Slim Shady is 42 yrs old lmao

so the guy is a fucking beast... living legend :worship:

Like I said his flow is strange sometimes but honestly the album is very dope man

Shady XV - love it
Psychopath Killer - classic?
Die Alone - i like that
Vegas - DOPE
Fine Line - DOPE
Right For Me - SICK

:worship:

I like strange
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I like it,I just do almost every song.I didn't like half of the songs on MMLP2 the first time and now i listen to it all the time. Give it time folks. Or don't,whatever you want,but don't shit over and over again saying the some stuff,one time is enough and without unnecessary bashing on Em and the members of the forum.
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby JeunePadawan » Nov 21st, '14, 08:29

Zarra wrote:
JeunePadawan wrote:When u take the time to think about it lol... Slim Shady is 42 yrs old lmao

so the guy is a fucking beast... living legend :worship:

Like I said his flow is strange sometimes but honestly the album is very dope man

Shady XV - love it
Psychopath Killer - classic?
Die Alone - i like that
Vegas - DOPE
Fine Line - DOPE
Right For Me - SICK

:worship:

I like strange
:y:
+ Twisted
I like it,I just do almost every song.I didn't like half of the songs on MMLP2 the first time and now i listen to it all the time. Give it time folks. Or don't,whatever you want,but don't shit over and over again saying the some stuff,one time is enough and without unnecessary bashing on Em and the members of the forum.


oh yeah I forgot Twisted ! love it, I liked Stronger Than I Was.. so lol... wish Shady has a verse tho but Yelawolf sounds nice its alright
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby brady50 » Nov 21st, '14, 08:36

The title track is so bouncy and happy. I'm glad Em brought back the change up of beats during each song, and especially the intros. All the intros are really cool
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Re: Shady XV General Discussion

Postby slims » Nov 21st, '14, 08:48

I'm not too big on psychopath killer, I just can't get into it.
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