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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Throwback24 » Dec 22nd, '08, 21:21

Eminem is the better musician so yes.
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Boston » Dec 22nd, '08, 21:29

eminem isn't even close to what dre is at production
eminem isn't even a good producer
but if he keeps practicing and all that he will be good.
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Tash8 » Dec 22nd, '08, 22:10

Boston wrote:eminem isn't even close to what dre is at production
eminem isn't even a good producer
but if he keeps practicing and all that he will be good.


imo eminem is a lot better producer than dre is.
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Brandon S » Dec 22nd, '08, 23:06

they are two COMPLETELY different rappers/producers. first of all, em will never reach dre's level of production, even tho hes become a pretty damn good one. Dre is a producer first, rapper 2nd. Em is obviously a rapper first, producer 2nd. In terms of rapping, yeah em has definetly surpassed dre, but there really shouldnt even be a comparison.
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Brandon S » Dec 22nd, '08, 23:07

Tash8 wrote:
Boston wrote:eminem isn't even close to what dre is at production
eminem isn't even a good producer
but if he keeps practicing and all that he will be good.


imo eminem is a lot better producer than dre is.



Get the fuck outta here if u think em is a better producer than dre, wtf are u saying
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Kez » Dec 22nd, '08, 23:10

KingBrandonSD wrote:
Tash8 wrote:
Boston wrote:eminem isn't even close to what dre is at production
eminem isn't even a good producer
but if he keeps practicing and all that he will be good.


imo eminem is a lot better producer than dre is.



Get the fuck outta here if u think em is a better producer than dre, wtf are u saying


Eminem actually produces unique beats.

Pretty much every beat Dre has been acclaimed for, in acuality all he's done is take a sample and add drums to them. While Eminem has used sampling, like any good producer, Dre uses it so much more prominently and he often adds nothing to it except drums. Coupled with the fact he doesn't write his own rhymes, Dre is one of the laziest out there.
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Boston » Dec 22nd, '08, 23:34

Tash8 wrote:
Boston wrote:eminem isn't even close to what dre is at production
eminem isn't even a good producer
but if he keeps practicing and all that he will be good.


imo eminem is a lot better producer than dre is.


i respect your opinion, but no way he is
eminem is a hit or miss, usually miss. he has very very good beats though
the drums are his thing though ha
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Lobsang » Dec 23rd, '08, 04:36

are u sure about that? Eminem's voice is classic.
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Boston » Dec 23rd, '08, 04:39

Lobsang wrote:are u sure about that? Eminem's voice is classic.


many people find his voice annoying
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby strongboy_f5 » Dec 23rd, '08, 09:44

speaking of voice,Eminem has a lot of different voices.Theres the aggressive voice,the parental voice,the rapper voice,and lotta of diss voices.Did any1 notice Em's voice in "im having a relapse"??He sounded like when he was 25,i think the pneumonia had something to do with his voice,i hope he recovers and comes back topping tthe charts.
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Boston » Dec 23rd, '08, 15:04

strongboy_f5 wrote:speaking of voice,Eminem has a lot of different voices.Theres the aggressive voice,the parental voice,the rapper voice,and lotta of diss voices.Did any1 notice Em's voice in "im having a relapse"??He sounded like when he was 25,i think the pneumonia had something to do with his voice,i hope he recovers and comes back topping tthe charts.


its called delivery.. ;\
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Shady'baby. » Dec 23rd, '08, 17:49

to sum it all up, Eminem the better rapper DRe the better producer, and when u mix them up, you get hits
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby strongboy_f5 » Dec 25th, '08, 09:49

BUt personally i think Eminem doesnt need a producer like Dre ,he has been in rap industry for a long time and he is old and experienced enough to produce his own records.Eminem is a better rapper for sure. If u had listened to "Crack a bottle" u cud hear that Eminem was actually teaching Dre how to rap cuz he knew Dre wud mess his song up and maybe bcuz Dre's voice is too lame and straight.
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby Ev1L GeniuS » Dec 25th, '08, 12:24

strongboy_f5 wrote:BUt personally i think Eminem doesnt need a producer like Dre ,he has been in rap industry for a long time and he is old and experienced enough to produce his own records.Eminem is a better rapper for sure. If u had listened to "Crack a bottle" u cud hear that Eminem was actually teaching Dre how to rap cuz he knew Dre wud mess his song up and maybe bcuz Dre's voice is too lame and straight.

True but i think Em needs couple of dre beats in his album ;) dont ya think :D
But yea eminem is great producer and can do Fine all by himself..
look at The Eminem Show most of the tracks are produced by eminem
1. "Curtains Up" (skit) Produced by Eminem
2. "White America" Produced by Eminem
3. "Business" Produced by Dr.Dre
4. "Cleanin' Out My Closet" Produced by Eminem & Bass
5. "Square Dance" Produced by Eminem
6. "The Kiss" (skit) Produced by Eminem
7. "Soldier" Produced by Eminem
8. "Say Goodbye Hollywood" Produced by Eminem
9. "Drips" (feat. Obie Trice) Produced by Eminem
10. "Without Me" Produced by Eminem & Bass
11. "Paul Rosenberg" (skit) Produced by Eminem
12. "Sing for the Moment" Produced by Eminem
13. "Superman" (feat. Dina Rae) Produced by Eminem
14. "Hailie's Song" Produced by Eminem
15. "Steve Berman" (skit) Produced by Eminem
16. "When the Music Stops" (feat. D12) Produced by Eminem
17. "Say What You Say" (feat. Dr. Dre) Produced by Dr.Dre
18. "'Till I Collapse" (feat. Nate Dogg) Produced by Eminem
19. "My Dad's Gone Crazy" (feat. Hailie Jade) Produced by Dr.Dre
20. "Curtains Close" (skit) Produced by Eminem
He produced some really good tracks :y:
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Re: Did Eminem surpass his mentor Dre?

Postby firepower » Dec 25th, '08, 13:34

Ev1L GeniuS wrote:
strongboy_f5 wrote:BUt personally i think Eminem doesnt need a producer like Dre ,he has been in rap industry for a long time and he is old and experienced enough to produce his own records.Eminem is a better rapper for sure. If u had listened to "Crack a bottle" u cud hear that Eminem was actually teaching Dre how to rap cuz he knew Dre wud mess his song up and maybe bcuz Dre's voice is too lame and straight.

True but i think Em needs couple of dre beats in his album ;) dont ya think :D
But yea eminem is great producer and can do Fine all by himself..
look at The Eminem Show most of the tracks are produced by eminem
1. "Curtains Up" (skit) Produced by Eminem
2. "White America" Produced by Eminem
3. "Business" Produced by Dr.Dre
4. "Cleanin' Out My Closet" Produced by Eminem & Bass
5. "Square Dance" Produced by Eminem
6. "The Kiss" (skit) Produced by Eminem
7. "Soldier" Produced by Eminem
8. "Say Goodbye Hollywood" Produced by Eminem
9. "Drips" (feat. Obie Trice) Produced by Eminem
10. "Without Me" Produced by Eminem & Bass
11. "Paul Rosenberg" (skit) Produced by Eminem
12. "Sing for the Moment" Produced by Eminem
13. "Superman" (feat. Dina Rae) Produced by Eminem
14. "Hailie's Song" Produced by Eminem
15. "Steve Berman" (skit) Produced by Eminem
16. "When the Music Stops" (feat. D12) Produced by Eminem
17. "Say What You Say" (feat. Dr. Dre) Produced by Dr.Dre
18. "'Till I Collapse" (feat. Nate Dogg) Produced by Eminem
19. "My Dad's Gone Crazy" (feat. Hailie Jade) Produced by Dr.Dre
20. "Curtains Close" (skit) Produced by Eminem
He produced some really good tracks :y:


Yeah, but he teached everything he know about producing from dre.
So without the help from dre he wouldnt be where he is as a producer
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