Em and Jay-z the modern day Pac and Biggie?

[Alaine]

^ & that proves.... a whole lot of fucking nothing.

proves Em has more off the dome rhymes in his head than Jay

[Evan C.]

^ & that proves.... a whole lot of fucking nothing.

proves Em has more off the dome rhymes in his head than Jay

Jay-Z is famous for not writing anything down, so no.

[Shady'baby.]

Then, it's too bad Reasonable Doubt lyrically and musically destroys The Marshall Mathers LP and the Blueprint plain beats The Eminem Show, hm?

Says who? You?

You know, I noticed that you actin like some well educated rap critic. So please, stop statin your opinion as well known facts. Fuckin punk...

I'm not trying to act like a rap critic, haha. But if you think that Reasonable Doubt isn't a better album than MMLP, just look at the reviews and if you doubt them, post this question on Yahoo Answers and see what comes up, stupid Stan.

Just because in some areas I think Eminem isn't as strong as others doesn't mean my opinion is bullshit, fucking retard.

Here's a real fact Jay-z fell off way more than Eminem = eminem destroys jayz. Fact 2 renegade showed that Eminem slaughters Jay. Fact 3 Jay got maybe more albums but hasnt acomplished as much with them as Eminem has with his (sales/fanbase). Fact 4 Jay-z got destroyed by THE GAME, Eminem didint get destroyed by anyone eminem > jay. Fact 5 not so much to do with rap but with personality Jay doesnt give a rats ass about his friends even if they made him who he is (Damon dash) also why Eminem > jay. Fact 6 Relapse shits on reasonable doubt lyrically. Fact 7 nas.

So did you have to wikipedia to get these facts? Typical Stans don't know shit about hip hop. I'm going to downplay each of your facts, sigh.

1. Jay-Z never fell off. American Gangster was pretty damn good and annihilates Relapse. Eminem destroying Jay-Z is purely opinion as they have never beefed.

2. Eminem did have the stronger verse in "Renegade", but there was no slaughtering involved.

3. Dude, saying Jay-Z hasn't accomplished as much as Eminem is fucking ignorant. Without Jay-Z, think of the rap game now. Who the fuck gives a damn about sales? And Jay-Z got more number 1 albums, mind you. If you got a fan base full of stupid Stans like you, who the fuck gives a damn?

4. Jay-Z got destroyed by the Game? When? Jay-Z is not even beefing with a groupie like Game. The Game is fucking stupid: dissing rappers to get attention. First G-Unit, then Jay. His raps are full of retarded name-dropping. That proves his creativity level is fucking low.

5. You think Jay-Z doesn't give a fuck about friends? He had some compatibility issues with Damon Dash, fucktard. Get your facts straight; they're still homies. It's a business issue. And that's like saying Eminem never had issues with his friends? (Royce da 5'9")

6. LOL. Reasonable Doubt is 20 times better than the highest expectation for Relapse. No album in the last 6-7 years touches Reasonable Doubt as a whole. (Lyrics, beats, influence.)

7. You're another typical person who thinks Jay-Z got murked by Nas by "Ether." I bet you never listened to "Takeover" OR "Ether", because if you did listen to them, Nas never destroyed Jay-Z. Yes, he won, but Takeover was one harsh track if you were actually there in 2001 when Jay-Z released the track. I remember the days Takeover and Ether dropped... Crazy shit back then.

Man, none of your facts are legit. Get the fuck out of here, Stan. If you're going to comment about hip hop, actually listen to hip hop, not just dickriding Slim. Seriously... as mczu said, 90% of you guys never even touched Reasonable Doubt. I bet 50% of you guys never heard of Reasonable Doubt until it was mentioned in the forum. smh

Sigh yeah he never fell off "all black everything black cards black cards all black everything" nah ofc he didint.
Nas slaughterd Jay like noone ever slaughterd a rapper. You can call Game a groupie and say shit like hes name dropping while its jay who started it again,the fact still remains that he's one of the illest dissing motherfuckers out there, and he slaughterd Jay on Wavy, Jay is a fucking bitch whos scared and doesnt dare to diss him back, he talks big in interviews and says shit like "he isint on my lvl" cuz he knows he cant put up against him. Eminem didint let Royce down, he was going to sign royce even before d12 came into the picture royce fucked that up cuz he signed somewhre else, and Damon was bashing people for jayz and in the end jazyz fucked him over. Eminem destroyed jay on renegade. Wow man cool having 11no1 albums and still not selling as much as Em with his 5 or so wow man rlly amazing, sales dont matter but they do proof your doing something good. Fucking jayz dickriding nuthugging homosexual

[Alaine]

^ & that proves.... a whole lot of fucking nothing.

proves Em has more off the dome rhymes in his head than Jay

Jay-Z is famous for not writing anything down, so no.

then explain to me his freestyle in that video please

[Relapse.LP]

da.relapse.lp, Reasonable Doubt does not destroy The Marshall Mathers LP. they're both classic legendary albums. you might be under-estimating The Marshall Mathers LP. i get a nostalgic feeling when i go back & listen to either of them...

& Blueprint > The Eminem Show? fuck outta here. momma loves me, song cry, & takeover are very good tracks granted, but almost every track on The Eminem Show is @ that level.

& you're asking that guy to read some reviews to form his opinion? listen for yourself & form your own opinion.

i agree with you on almost everything else you said, tho'. i don't care what any of you eminem fans say, Encore will always remain in his discography...

oh & btw if we're talking albums... all eyez on me > *

Hmm, yeah, I might be underestimating MMLP. Been a while since I listened to that one, but my memory is still pretty fresh.

By the way, All Eyez on Me < Me Against the World.

[Robbie G]

Fact 6 Relapse shits on reasonable doubt lyrically.

Dumbest thing ever posted on this board.

Relapse is pretty dope lyrical, but have you even listened to Reasonable Doubt? That shits a classic and is crazy lyrically.

[Shady'baby.]

what the fuck's with this bandwagoning?

nas did not destroy Jay. listen to takeover, then listen to ether.

i swear, some people treat rap like WWF sometimes. not everything is a competition. the song Renegade is about being a renegade, you know, a rebel. going against the grain.

jay-z talks about hustling in the streets, staying above water & fighting the good fight. he makes a worthy contribution to the theme of the song. eminem's approach is anti-parents, anti-establishment, that's how he defines a renegade. he makes a worthy contribution to the song.

Jay-Z does his thing, eminem does his. why can't you just enjoy two really good rappers making a good song together? i believe eminem said "i don't compete with nobody."

Everything is a competition if you fucking compare 2 rappers 2 each other retard, Ether is the best diss track ever made, im not saying the takeover is bad but its nowhere near as good as ether, might be just my opinion but thats how i feel. And who says i or anyone here doesnt enjoy both rappers, i do, but that doesnt mean i cant discuss who the better one is.

And yeah i have listened to reasonable doubt and i dont think its up to par with Relapse

[Wic Kid]

Here we go again. Everytime when Em and Jay get mentioned together in a title of the topic, people start comparin them two to each other.

Em and Jay-z the modern day Pac and Biggie

That means u should compare Em and Jay together to Pac and Biggie.

[Weezy]

They may be bigger then Big and 2pac, but big and 2pac will ALWAYS be my old favourites, even if EM and Jay is better/has more fame, or has done better.

2pac and big will always be first for me, even though i love Em alot.

It's like.. You can't really comapare em'.

[Weezy]

i'm pretty sure tupac & big have sold more than jay-z. not sure about big though..

Even if they haven't, if they woulda' be alive they'd probably sell WAY more.

[Shady'baby.]

Everything is a competition if you fucking compare 2 rappers 2 each other retard

yeah, & i'm saying don't compare them, twit.

And yeah i have listened to reasonable doubt and i dont think its up to par with Relapse

oh, you're such a fucking twit. how is it possible to be such a gigantic twit?

Its hard not to compare then when everyone else is fucking moron

And yeah ima twit cuz i think relapse is better, yeah nice arguement you own so hard man fucking moron gtfo

And to those who havent noticed i didint rly mean anything as facts, since you cant hold fucking facts over who the better rapper is, its all about opinion some morons like da relapse dont get that

[Relapse.LP]

Fact 6 Relapse shits on reasonable doubt lyrically.

Dumbest thing ever posted on this board.

Relapse is pretty dope lyrical, but have you even listened to Reasonable Doubt? That shits a classic and is crazy lyrically.

Word. Let's put it this way: Relapse is 1/3 of MMLP and MMLP is worse than RD. Reasonable Doubt had that rawness in the lyrics and you could feel Jay's hunger like Em's hunger in MMLP. Unlike Relapse, where Slim admitted he was just experimenting again.

Shady'baby, I bet you just listened to one verse off one of RD's song and judged it against the entirety of Relapse... Go fucking ride Em's dick again, Stan. Yes, you are a Stan. Lol, call me a Jay-Z dickrider but Jay-Z doesn't even make my top 5 MC list and RD is not in my top 5 album list either.

what the fuck's with this bandwagoning?

nas did not destroy Jay. listen to takeover, then listen to ether.

i swear, some people treat rap like WWF sometimes. not everything is a competition. the song Renegade is about being a renegade, you know, a rebel. going against the grain.

jay-z talks about hustling in the streets, staying above water & fighting the good fight. he makes a worthy contribution to the theme of the song. eminem's approach is anti-parents, anti-establishment, that's how he defines a renegade. he makes a worthy contribution to the song.

Jay-Z does his thing, eminem does his. why can't you just enjoy two really good rappers making a good song together? i believe eminem said "i don't compete with nobody."

Everything is a competition if you fucking compare 2 rappers 2 each other retard, Ether is the best diss track ever made, im not saying the takeover is bad but its nowhere near as good as ether, might be just my opinion but thats how i feel. And who says i or anyone here doesnt enjoy both rappers, i do, but that doesnt mean i cant discuss who the better one is.

And yeah i have listened to reasonable doubt and i dont think its up to par with Relapse

You're just another faggot who claims to be a "hip hop" fan and says Nas DESTROYED Jay-Z in their feud. I bet you never even listened to both sides of the battle and agreed with the majority of comments you see on YouTube videos of Ether, lol.

No Vaseline is better than Ether in the fact that it was harsher and had more impact.

There's disses that are better than Ether, dumbass.

They may be bigger then Big and 2pac, but big and 2pac will ALWAYS be my old favourites, even if EM and Jay is better/has more fame, or has done better.

2pac and big will always be first for me, even though i love Em alot.

It's like.. You can't really comapare em'.

You cannot compare dead rappers to alive rappers in the sense that if the dead rappers were alive still, they could have put out some whack albums that would lower their status as MC's. Let me repeat...

If Biggie and 2Pac were still alive, it's possible they would have put out terrible albums that would lower their credibility and consistency as a rapper and they wouldn't be as legendary as they are today. But until then, STOP COMPARING DEAD TO ALIVE RAPPERS.

Everything is a competition if you fucking compare 2 rappers 2 each other retard

yeah, & i'm saying don't compare them, twit.

And yeah i have listened to reasonable doubt and i dont think its up to par with Relapse

oh, you're such a fucking twit. how is it possible to be such a gigantic twit?

Its hard not to compare then when everyone else is fucking moron

And yeah ima twit cuz i think relapse is better, yeah nice arguement you own so hard man fucking moron gtfo

And to those who havent noticed i didint rly mean anything as facts, since you cant hold fucking facts over who the better rapper is, its all about opinion some morons like da relapse dont get that

Before you compare two albums, actually listen to the both albums. Haha, you think I'm a twit, but you insulted us first. You get so angry over my opinion it's hilarious.

[Shady'baby.]

Haha i love your arguements acting like your a real hip hop head and thinking nobody aside of you knows anything about hip hop, bitch get the fuck out of here, Ether is the best diss track ever made and theres a reason why you can see tons of people commenting on youtube that Ether did destroy Jayz. fucking moron didint say ur a twit aemedoa or w/e said ima twit and i responded the fuck is wrong with your eyes. Yeah repeating eminem dickrider and Stan really makes you come off strong as a hip hop head man wow rlly, your awesome. Its pretty clear by now that you infact rlly are a Jayz dickrider and saying shit like he isint in my topt 5 mc list is fucking bullcrap you go crazy if someone says Nas destroyed Jayz alot of people think that and im one of them, no matter how many times you come back with your retarded arguements and say shit like "u never listend to rd" "your not a hiphop head" "nas didint destroy jayz" "your a stan" thats all you say and i got to say your quite boring.

[Relapse.LP]

Haha i love your arguements acting like your a real hip hop head and thinking nobody aside of you knows anything about hip hop, bitch get the fuck out of here, Ether is the best diss track ever made and theres a reason why you can see tons of people commenting on youtube that Ether did destroy Jayz. fucking moron didint say ur a twit aemedoa or w/e said ima twit and i responded the fuck is wrong with your eyes. Yeah repeating eminem dickrider and Stan really makes you come off strong as a hip hop head man wow rlly, your awesome. Its pretty clear by now that you infact rlly are a Jayz dickrider and saying shit like he isint in my topt 5 mc list is fucking bullcrap you go crazy if someone says Nas destroyed Jayz alot of people think that and im one of them, no matter how many times you come back with your retarded arguements and say shit like "u never listend to rd" "your not a hiphop head" "nas didint destroy jayz" "your a stan" thats all you say and i got to say your quite boring.

If I'm so boring, don't reply to my comments then, Eminem dickriding Stan. Yep, I'm such a real hip hop head and you're just a Stan.

Happy now?

You lost all your legibility in this forum when you said Relapse is much better than Reasonable Doubt. And Jay-Z ain't in my top 5, dumbass, haha. I know my favorites better than you do mine.

Cheers.

[Shady'baby.]

Haha i love your arguements acting like your a real hip hop head and thinking nobody aside of you knows anything about hip hop, bitch get the fuck out of here, Ether is the best diss track ever made and theres a reason why you can see tons of people commenting on youtube that Ether did destroy Jayz. fucking moron didint say ur a twit aemedoa or w/e said ima twit and i responded the fuck is wrong with your eyes. Yeah repeating eminem dickrider and Stan really makes you come off strong as a hip hop head man wow rlly, your awesome. Its pretty clear by now that you infact rlly are a Jayz dickrider and saying shit like he isint in my topt 5 mc list is fucking bullcrap you go crazy if someone says Nas destroyed Jayz alot of people think that and im one of them, no matter how many times you come back with your retarded arguements and say shit like "u never listend to rd" "your not a hiphop head" "nas didint destroy jayz" "your a stan" thats all you say and i got to say your quite boring.

If I'm so boring, don't reply to my comments then, Eminem dickriding Stan. Yep, I'm such a real hip hop head and you're just a Stan.

Happy now?

You lost all your legibility in this forum when you said Relapse is much better than Reasonable Doubt. And Jay-Z ain't in my top 5, dumbass, haha. I know my favorites better than you do mine.

Cheers.

Yeah and your legibility really went sky high as a hip hop head, i bet everyone wants to be your friend on this forum now ~~~~AWESOME~~~~~~. And yeah im a stan and im proud of it, id rather be a EM stan than a jayz one like you are and i bet alot other people on this forum share that opinion aswell lol

Cheers mate