Canibus & DZK (& D12) - Eminem Diss [Air Strike]

[Evan C.]

I think you're missing the technical side of things. Nas, while a good lyricist, is not a truly great one. He went in and out of his multis and the shit usually didn't line up syllable-for-syllable.

that's because lining up compound multi-syllabic rhymes syllable-for-syllable is hard & usually detracts from the quality of the lyrics. eminem has never written a song with multis that line up syllable for syllable every time anyway.

you're being way too systematic in your tick-the-boxes interpretation of lyrics. it's like you're running them through a scanner & the only thing it detects is the number of multis, not the fact that it's a good story or that the rap paints a picture or is particularly poetic.

not to mention raps with just multis & no other dimensions can be fucking terrible. it's gotta sound good first & foremost, otherwise you get this fucking trash:

I'm getting mad love I'm snuggling hugs
Druggling thugs smuggling drugs juggling jobs guzzling jugs
So here's a toast to federal checks
Hetero sex unaffordable medical debts huh
We travel in packs and ravel in facts and gravel in cracks
To find babbling Max gaffling tracks
I grapple an axe for them baffling acts
The mysterious stab in the backs who dabble in wax

^ this horse shit from the mostly horse shit album Infinite is the equivalent of Dragonforce in guitar playing, who are praised for their ultra-fast shredding duuude.. until you pull your head out of your ass & realize it fucking sucks.

i never saw the stringent & pedantic use of multis as a criterion for 'great rap', but rather a technical embellishment of a rap & giving it a certain lustre.

The problem with those is that he's not making any sense with them.

It IS possible to line up syllables (most of the time...no one said Eminem did that all the time) and still say something. Eminem is just basically the only one who has done it consistently (his prime years).

[shadybaby46]

Well, you're a complete idiot.

Lemme guess...you think Mockingbird, When I'm Gone, and Beautiful are great pieces of lyricism too?

No, but I put them on the exact same pedestal as Lose Yourself actually. Dumbed down lyrics, but above the mainstream standard to sell to stupid fucking kids like you.

wow... lose yourself is on a completely different level then all those, and will go down as one of the best hip hop songs ever written, the rhymes are insane, the story telling is perfect imo and there isnt a word out of place.

[Evan C.]

Well, you're a complete idiot.

Lemme guess...you think Mockingbird, When I'm Gone, and Beautiful are great pieces of lyricism too?

No, but I put them on the exact same pedestal as Lose Yourself actually. Dumbed down lyrics, but above the mainstream standard to sell to stupid fucking kids like you.

But, I'm done with you. I logged on to tell you how you were fucking stupid for thinking Biggie sucked. I accomplished that. Outtie.

And to the poster below me: You're a fucking idiot.

Yes, Lose Yourself is 'dumbed down" .

You were better off never registering.

[EminemIVLife]

You guys are gonna see why Jay Z is such a biatch who thinks he's too big to respond to beef. Em is gonna answer !

[Alaine]

You guys are gonna see why Jay Z is such a biatch who thinks he's too big to respond to beef. Em is gonna answer !

wait so what if Em's not gonna answer? you're gonna say he's a bitch too?

[shadybaby46]

You guys are gonna see why Jay Z is such a biatch who thinks he's too big to respond to beef. Em is gonna answer !

wait so what if Em's not gonna answer? you're gonna say he's a bitch too?

with all the shit said about him in this. it would be a bitch move to not retaliate

[EminemIVLife]

No he will answer dont worry. You can quote me right here. ^co-sign

[Satire]

Yes, Lose Yourself is 'dumbed down" .

You were better off never registering.

Yes Stan, It was "Dumbed down" (In fact, there's a 3 page topic below this somewhere that has alot of other people who think the same thing.) compared to his other shit if you wanna talk lyrics. But I guess if you only bump 3 of his songs you wouldn't know that right.

Good job on proving you're a close minded asshole though. I'm sure you thought Em also roasted Bis on that canibitch thing though right. I was right about to log off before that last comment.

[EminemIVLife]

dude stfu and focus on this topic plz ^

[DƎRDYPK]

No he will answer dont worry. You can quote me right here.

If Em don't respond
I won't know what to think of him

[shadybaby46]

Yes, Lose Yourself is 'dumbed down" .

You were better off never registering.

Yes Stan, It was "Dumbed down" (In fact, there's a 3 page topic below this somewhere that has alot of other people who think the same thing.) compared to his other shit if you wanna talk lyrics. But I guess if you only bump 3 of his songs you wouldn't know that right.

Good job on proving you're a close minded asshole though. I'm sure you thought Em also roasted Bis on that canibitch thing though right. I was right about to log off before that last comment.

dude seriously its not dumbed down, its fricken genius. top 5 eminem song any day of the week. just for how motivational of a song it is.

[Satire]

dude seriously its not dumbed down, its fricken genius. top 5 eminem song any day of the week. just for how motivational of a song it is.

I'm talking Lyrics because someone was bringing up "Multis" as an argument and then said that "Lose Yourself" was the best example. Yes, it's his best motivational. I know plenty of rappers who were actually inspired by the song itself to rap. But I wouldn't say it's his best in Multis like some people like to think.

[Evan C.]

Yes, Lose Yourself is 'dumbed down" .

You were better off never registering.

Yes Stan, It was "Dumbed down" (In fact, there's a 3 page topic below this somewhere that has alot of other people who think the same thing.) compared to his other shit. But I guess if you only bump 3 of his songs you wouldn't know that right.

Good job on proving you're a close minded asshole though. I'm sure you thought Em also roasted Bis on that canibitch thing though right.

Yes, I only bump 3 of his songs.

It's funny to be called a Stan and yet be accused of not hearing enough of Eminem's songs in the same night.

Canibitch was a good diss song, the "metaphors from mars" lines were effective...too bad Dre's Jermaine Dupree shit distracted him from the topic at hand.

But oh noez, i thought I had only heard three of his songs!!!111

[Satire]

Canibitch was a good diss song

I stopped here. Now I'm done. Continue with the topic at hand.

[shadybaby46]

dude seriously its not dumbed down, its fricken genius. top 5 eminem song any day of the week. just for how motivational of a song it is.

I'm talking Lyrics because someone was bringing up "Multis" as an argument and then said that "Lose Yourself" was the best example. Yes, it's his best motivational. I know plenty of rappers who were actually inspired by the song itself to rap. But I wouldn't say it's his best in Multis like some people like to think.

i definitely agree it wasn't his best work in terms of multis or rhymes for that matter. all im saying is it wasn't "dumbed down".