TR Eminem Problem

[EminemIVLife]

Agree (X-Ray), it really does seem like there is a plan to re-program this new generation into homos. Weaken every1's moral strength, desensitise them for whatever the future has to offer. Sadly, alot of us are going to be a part of this generation

[Fa-Q]

I have no problem with people thinkin he's the best BUT I understand if you don't you know. I also think when he does finally quit he'll get a lot more respect then he does now and that includes a top five in most peoples minds

[KaRtLiDgE]

Yeah, the hip-hop golden age was well under way by the time Em came so he couldnt be a pioneer and create a whole new style / set new standards; but he build on what his peers did
Thats the true spirit of hip-hop

exactly. but hey who knows. in 10 years, shit even 5 years, it could be totally evolved. (wishfull thinking because i feel rap is being destroyed these days)

rakim's new album is fucking great and more people have listened to lil wayne's no ceilings. just sad.

Yeah, I just feel hip-hops best days are behind it. Now you have rappers singing to girls like its the done thing. All the GOATs are getting old; Jay Z getting love for his materialism and putting pop all over his album; ppl focusing more on dance moves and skanky legs; Gucci mane simple lyrics and dope beat is whats hot in the streets. I just think that there is no turning back and shit isnt gonna get better.

true rap will always be available to you. like coleon said... the only difference is that you wont be able to enjoy it with friends because they are all talking about how the best rapper ever is lil wayne. you will not hear it on mainstream radio (big ups to shade45 for being real hip-hop) and the best rappers will not be the richest. and the worst part, is that if a good rapper becomes really famous, they will almost surely sellout.

[Xray]

okay well agree to disagree about em and rakim. but you are totally right about em being white. you could also say he spit with more emotion in his voice than anyone has ever heard. at the cyphers and things like that, i just think thats people stepping up thier games cuz him being there.

well have to wait and see what he can do with rap for the future. So many untalented rappers rapping about the same things with horrible pre-school rhymes. Em will be looked down on 20 years from now if rap declined under his watch. yea i know he was abscent from rap the for 4 years, but still.

if anything, you could say jay-z changed the game more than em, but in my opinion for the worse. i cant believe hes still talking about selling drugs and money. but he also adds now how great he thinks he is.

Agreed. Jay-Z brought the camel look to the game, which other rapper looks like a camel right?

Agree (X-Ray), it really does seem like there is a plan to re-program this new generation into homos. Weaken every1's moral strength, desensitise them for whatever the future has to offer. Sadly, alot of us are going to be a part of this generation

That sucks man. But fuck tagging along, I'll die explaining how wack this new generation of mainstream is if I have to.

[KaRtLiDgE]

if anything, you could say jay-z changed the game more than em, but in my opinion for the worse. i cant believe hes still talking about selling drugs and money. but he also adds now how great he thinks he is.

that's what he raps about, just like the gay ass shit Em raps about

yea buy jay-z has been rapping about that shit for the last 14 years...

[Fa-Q]

And he did change the game. He's basically the Martin Luther King of rap for white people, he integrated white people into a black genre, and they were not readily accepted with the exception to the beastie boys

[Mr.P]

Music is and will always be about personal opinions, so when I say Eminem is the best rapper. He is, to me. But it’s not like there is no one that comes close to him, so I agree that people shouldn’t post an opinion on someone before actually listening to that person. If you can’t listen to another artist because you feel like you have to be loyal to Em. You’re missing out on a lot of great music. And beef has always been a part of hip hop, it keeps artists on their toes and they do it to keep it interesting. Most of the time it’s nothing personal at all, it’s just to keep us happy. ofc we are supposed to take sides and argue on why the one we like are the best one in the beef, but for real people got to listen to both sides before saying who killed who. You can’t just read that someone dissed Em, and when he responds say "Em killed him" when you haven’t even listened to the other diss. That’s not a real beef, even if you are a fan of one of the guys in the beef, you should be able to put that aside and judge the whole thing by listening to both songs as not a fan of neither. Listen to the lyrics then say who won. When Em was battling coming up, people made noise for the person who had the best lyrics against the other one. Didn’t matter what the names where, that’s when it was a real competition. So doesn’t matter what the names are, give both sides a listen before you judge. All this stupid shit about Canibus being more lyrical than Em and vice versa doesn’t mean shit now, until Em responds this is not a beef. And if it becomes a beef, who has done what before isn’t relevant. The diss tracks they throw against each other are the only thing that matters. Because the battle is now, not what song Em did some years ago that proves he’s better than him. You could bring up the old feud, but imo none of them really put real effort into that one.

[KaRtLiDgE]

Music is and will always be about personal opinions, so when I say Eminem is the best rapper. He is, to me. But it’s not like there is no one that comes close to him, so I agree that people shouldn’t post an opinion on someone before actually listening to that person. If you can’t listen to another artist because you feel like you have to be loyal to Em. You’re missing out on a lot of great music. And beef has always been a part of hip hop, it keeps artists on their toes and they do it to keep it interesting. Most of the time it’s nothing personal at all, it’s just to keep us happy. ofc we are supposed to take sides and argue on why the one we like are the best one in the beef, but for real people got to listen to both sides before saying who killed who. You can’t just read that someone dissed Em, and when he responds say "Em killed him" when you haven’t even listened to the other diss. That’s not a real beef, even if you are a fan of one of the guys in the beef, you should be able to put that aside and judge the whole thing by listening to both songs as not a fan of neither. Listen to the lyrics then say who won. When Em was battling coming up, people made noise for the person who had the best lyrics against the other one. Didn’t matter what the names where, that’s when it was a real competition. So doesn’t matter what the names are, give both sides a listen before you judge. All this stupid shit about Canibus being more lyrical than Em and vice versa doesn’t mean shit now, until Em responds this is not a beef. And if it becomes a beef, who has done what before isn’t relevant. The diss tracks they throw against each other are the only thing that matters. Because the battle is now, not what song Em did some years ago that proves he’s better than him. You could bring up the old feud, but imo none of them really put real effort into that one.

i totally agree. i am a die hard em fan, but you would have to admit, some shit canibus said in his diss are very low class and pathetic. mentioning someone's daughter and best friend who died... if I was a canibus fan or totally neutral, i would be hoping for em to rap circles around him and destroy him. also the only reason canibus id dissing em is to get a buzz. your totally right about what you said, but this aint a typical hip hop battle. sure your entitled to take personal shots at a person, but not to that extent.

I can already tell you the result of the battle. Canibus will win. If em doesn't respond, canibus might diss him again using that against him and calling him pussy and people will say em never responded to canibus but responded to mariah. If em does respond, it will have the most views on youtube and tons of downloads and buzz. canibus will fire back, em will fire back again, canibus puts out a commercial type album and sells 100k plus first week. I wish it was how u said, but those days are gone.

[Alaine]

If em doesn't respond, canibus might diss him again using that against him and calling him pussy and people will say em never responded to canibus but responded to mariah. If em does respond, it will have the most views on youtube and tons of downloads and buzz. canibus will fire back, em will fire back again, canibus puts out a commercial type album and sells 100k plus first week. I wish it was how u said, but those days are gone.

Em shouldn't respond and doesn't need to, that's all.

[Wic Kid]

If em doesn't respond, canibus might diss him again using that against him and calling him pussy and people will say em never responded to canibus but responded to mariah. If em does respond, it will have the most views on youtube and tons of downloads and buzz. canibus will fire back, em will fire back again, canibus puts out a commercial type album and sells 100k plus first week. I wish it was how u said, but those days are gone.

Em shouldn't respond and doesn't need to, that's all.

Yeah, but look what would ppl and his fans think if he didnt respond. They say he will lose their respect. Obviously a sane person realizes that Can is just lookin for a promotion. And the best thing (for Em) would be not to respond. But Canibus still gets a lot of attention even without Em respondin. So when I think this thru, I say yes. He should respond and murder Canibitch once and for all. Plus, Ems lyricism has improved a LOT lately and I think he could handle this.

Plus, that faggot talked shit about his best friend. So I say tear his ass apart.

[EminemIVLife]

Me too
Canibus wont gain too much from it anyway espcialy if Em totally murks him

[Alaine]

Me too
Canibus wont gain too much from it anyway espcialy if Em totally murks him

Wrong. Canibus isn't gaining any attention NOW. But if Em responded, Canibus will gain some attention for sure. He knows he can't gain buzz by himself, that's why he has to put D12's pointless verses in there so people will pay attention. Lame.

And that's not even the main point. The point is : It's over. The beef was 7 years old late. It's already stale. Get over it.

And Em may throw some bars at Bis in a song on R2 or Refill just to make fun. But that's it.

[Wic Kid]

Me too
Canibus wont gain too much from it anyway espcialy if Em totally murks him

Wrong. Canibus isn't gaining any attention NOW. But if Em responded, Canibus will gain some attention for sure. He knows he can't gain buzz by himself, that's why he has to put D12's pointless verses in there so people will pay attention. Lame.

And that's not even the main point. The point is : It's over. The beef was 7 years old late. It's already stale. Get over it.

And Em may throw some bars at Bis in a song on R2 or Refill just to make fun. But that's it.

Honey, almost every major rap forum is havin the same discussion that we have...

[EminemIVLife]

I know that we agreed that Canibus is starving.... but he still has enough of a fanbase to ensure that he eats to be honest and its not like he will get stratospherically boosted by an Em diss. Benzino got all that attention and he still went bankrupt remember ?

[Alaine]

Me too
Canibus wont gain too much from it anyway espcialy if Em totally murks him

Wrong. Canibus isn't gaining any attention NOW. But if Em responded, Canibus will gain some attention for sure. He knows he can't gain buzz by himself, that's why he has to put D12's pointless verses in there so people will pay attention. Lame.

And that's not even the main point. The point is : It's over. The beef was 7 years old late. It's already stale. Get over it.

And Em may throw some bars at Bis in a song on R2 or Refill just to make fun. But that's it.

Honey, almost every major rap forum is havin the same discussion that we have...

yeah and everybody said Em must respond or he is a bitch?
and I need to know what major rap forums are still discussing this as well.